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Hi chaps.

I keep looking at IG's spread on the total booking in the villa/birm derby
and think this has to be a sell.

52-56 spread, now if they can all remain reasonbly calm that could result
in a nice half time profit, would'nt keep it open the whole match but if noboby
gets sent off you need 6 players to get booked to make a profit going long.

What a result....no bookings in first half.

33-37 spread, sell for 52 and buy back for 37, no need to get greedy
when the handbags will start flying in second half.

ravey well done are you out now?

Yes for 36.

Just as i was deciding to go long around 34 there was a booking so missed
out on a double whammy.

Please can any of you guys who know about the footie tell Mr HelenW and me why a back pass is a foul. Is it a new rule, cos we don't seem to have heard much about it till recently. Thanks, H

Helen

the back pass rule was brought in approx 2 or 3 yrs ago i think. Basically any deliberate back pass from an outfield player using his foot the keeper is not allowed to pick the ball up and if he does an indirect free kick is awarded where the goalkeeper picks the ball up. Any other part of the body other than the foot is allowed ie head, chest, knee

As far as I am aware, a back pass to the goalie is not a foul.

However, the following is generally the case:-

The rule against the goalkeeper picking up or touching a ball deliberately kicked to him or her comes into effect when certain technical requirements are met: the ball must have been kicked (i. e., played with the foot); the kick must have been deliberate, rather than a miskick, an attempt to clear, an accidental deflection or a misdirection; the ball must have been directed (i. e., clearly played deliberately) to a place where the goalkeeper could pick it up; and the goalkeeper must play the ball with the hands before an infringement has occurred.

Referees should punish such handling only when, in the opinion of the referee, the play by the teammate was deliberate. If the teammate deliberately kicked the ball to a place where the goalkeeper could play it, then the goalkeeper will infringe the Law by playing it with the hands. However, the 'keeper may play the ball in any way that does not involve handling (e.g., show could kick it, head it, etc.).

If the teammate has played the ball with the foot, trapping the ball and leaving it for the goalkeeper to pick up, that is the same as kicking the ball deliberately to the goalkeeper.

The rule against the 'keeper picking up the deliberately kicked ball is intended to prevent time wasting and thus, fairly obviously, to increase the time the ball is available for either team to use in an attack on the opponents' goal.

The call is always in the opinion and at the discretion of the referee, who is the only person capable of making the judgment as to the deliberateness of the kick. If there is any doubt in the referee's mind as to the deliberateness of the pass, then common sense should prevail and the supposed infringement should not be called.

Generally, the referee will award an Indirect Free Kick to the other side for the infringement.

Of course, goalies are not allowed to handle the ball outside the Penalty Area in any event.

Thanks, Guys. Took me long enough to work out the offside rule, but I'm sure I can master this one!

Peter wants to add his thanks and if you ever need to know how to unblock a coronary artery, he'd be happy to help :o)

Tell Peter hes welcome and hopefully he wont be required with his advice ;-)

OK, HelenW.

:-)

Having had it done some 14 year's ago, namely angioplasty and coupled with a bit of ultrasound zapping just for good measure, I'd like to know how your Peter unblocks the average right coronary artery these days.

Doc, in much the same way as you had it done, but nowadays he would probably also put in a stent to keep the artery clear for longer.

Is anyone else getting a message in italian from Betfair when trying to logon to the website and also another to change my password? I can't even login via betangel as betfair is returning an error of 'messages'.

I'm loathe to accept I've read a message I don't understand. If I were to guess, I think betfair is asking me to change my password to a length of 8-20 chars (its currently 7). Or should I be asking this in 'Ask Kayak' ;~)

i had an email saying that i would be asked to change my password in the next week but as yet havent had the request when i log in

Cheers Fundy
I ended up taking a 'flyer' and increased my password length and I'm in. It was either that or miss the Arsenal game :~)
When your turn comes, below is what you can expect lol.
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9837/betfairlogin2le.jpg

Betfair are asking everybody with insecure passwords to change them.

1.01 there is a squirrel joke in the Sun tomorrow.

"Arsenal caught cheating playing 12 on the pitch" ;~)

Security shock as Sun man gets on pitch


A good result though would have liked a second goal. Any away goal will see us through

Villareal proved a hard nut to crack!!!