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The Forex Thread (FX)     

hilary - 31 Dec 2003 13:00

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Forex rebates on every trade - win or lose!

Seymour Clearly - 09 Apr 2008 15:01 - 9623 of 11056

Is that the Alphaville blog Hils? PS my soh is warped as well - gets me into lots of trouble!!

I was long cable this morning but got stopped out. Grrr.

hilary - 09 Apr 2008 15:56 - 9624 of 11056

No, Seymour, they're Thomson journos.

Seymour Clearly - 10 Apr 2008 09:08 - 9625 of 11056

Thanks Hils

EUR USD at turning point or just ready to keep going up? What a lovely run up yesterday afternoon - shame I missed it, haven't time to post a chart.

FreemanFox - 10 Apr 2008 12:40 - 9626 of 11056

Back after school holidays and a short break away. Longest time I've not done any trading for ages. Need to start accumulating a pip or two. Hope everyone's had a successful few weeks trading.

I see that EUR/USD back up near its all time highs again. Not looking to short though, who knows how high it will go as no real sign of weakening.

I'm just looking at the charts to see if there are any other opportunities that suite me today.

Seymour Clearly - 10 Apr 2008 17:38 - 9627 of 11056

That header looks interesting Hils, presume the timescales are US?

See the EUR USD couldn't keep it up - for now.

hilary - 10 Apr 2008 17:41 - 9628 of 11056

I'm just playing with it now, Seymour, but it's not really working yet as I'd hoped it would.

I'll leave it like that tonight and come back to it tomorrow.

It'll be interesting to receive some feedback in the meantime.

Seymour Clearly - 10 Apr 2008 17:59 - 9629 of 11056

OK Hils, I can see how it works pretty much immediately. I like the idea as I can't always run my charting prog behind everything else I have running, or may be on a different PC. You never rest do you :-)

It was quite good having multiple currencies running like you did at one point but I also like the larger single chart. They are certainly an improvement on the small charts you had there previously. Would be interested in everyone else's opinion.

chocolat - 10 Apr 2008 18:09 - 9630 of 11056

What a great idea, Hil.
Been having a play already - I even logged off and on to the thread to see what would happen (well, I didn't want to think I might break it).
Say bye bye to those other charts :)

FreemanFox - 10 Apr 2008 18:50 - 9631 of 11056

Charts look great Hils,

Definately think daily calendar needs to be in the header as well though.

chocolat - 10 Apr 2008 20:52 - 9632 of 11056

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Low U.S. interest rates won't be enough to make the dollar the prime funding currency for the most notorious of foreign-exchange strategies, the carry trade.

With the Federal Reserve's benchmark lending rate at 2.25% and expected to dip even farther in coming months, talk is emerging of the greenback rivaling the yen and maybe replacing the Swiss franc as a funding currency.

But uncertain market conditions, characterized by rapid swings in exchange rates, speak against large-scale use of dollar loans as the vehicle for speculative investments in higher-yielding assets outside the U.S.

While interest rate differentials are the crux of the carry trade, other factors have to be in place for it to yield a profit. Low volatility in the funding currency is also key, said David Gilmore, a partner at Foreign Exchange Analytics.

That means the dollar's exchange rate and the yield in the target asset have to catch a steady trend. Ideally, the dollar should decline and the value of the target asset should rise to maximize profit.

That's what happened back in the latter half of the 1990s, except the yen was the funding currency because Japanese lending rates were close to zero. Vast sums of yen were borrowed to invest in U.S. paper. With the greenback appreciating at a 20% clip some of those years and U.S. stock markets booming, carry traders realized huge profits.

Or more rightly said, they made a lot of money if they got out in time.

In the autumn of 1998, the yen-financed carry trade crashed with the impact of the Tunguska Event and left an enormous crater in the financial world's landscape. The Russian debt default in August 1998, and the subsequent near-collapse of the Long-Term Capital Management hedge fund, had darkened the outlook for the dollar. The U.S. currency plummeted early in October as the yen rallied after a surge in the Tokyo stock market.


Speculators Scrambled In 1998

Speculators scrambled to unwind dollar positions and buy yen to pay off their Japanese loans. In the equivalent of a going-out-of-business sale, sellers took what they could get as the dollar/yen rate gapped lower. Over a four-day period, the dollar made huge swings between Y135 and Y111.

A lot of hedge funds and other speculators weren't just burned badly between August and November of 1998 - they were vaporized. Some of the survivors who tried to recoup losses by going short on gold the following year went under when the price of the yellow metal suddenly rallied.

For many months after that, carry trades verged on the edge of extinction, living a precarious existence deep in an isolated corner of the financial jungle. There were a few exotic variations that thrived very quietly, but nothing like the dinosaur-sized leveraged positions involving billions upon billions of dollars that existed prior to October 1998.

The carry trade did make a comeback, though. In 2001, the Fed began trimming its benchmark rate, which eventually bottomed out in 2003 at a 45-year low of 1%. In 2002, the dollar started a long-term slide that hasn't yet ended.

Investors with more appetite for risk resumed borrowing low-interest currencies such as the yen and the Swiss franc to finance the purchase of higher-yielding assets. There was a lot of talk back then about the dollar becoming a funding currency, yet it never happened on a broad scale.

Certainly some speculators took out loans in greenbacks to park them in higher-yielding assets, but the possibility of a sudden dollar rally - or a corresponding slide for the target currency - deterred carry trades of the magnitude seen in the late 1990s.

And if markets needed a refresher on how fast carry trades can go bad, they got it in 2006. The February-to-March turmoil in Icelandic markets that year can largely be blamed on the unwinding of carry trade. Speculative players, such as hedge funds, had borrowed mostly in yen but to some degree in dollars, to invest in Iceland.


Iceland A Reminder Of Carry Trade Dangers

Iceland had become a particular favorite of carry traders because its benchmark rates were above 10%, the economy was booming and its currency as well as Icelandic equities were appreciating robustly. But when sentiment turned and the once-daring investors began rushing for the exits all at once, the krona and Icelandic equities had nowhere to go but down.

Fluctuations were severe in the short run. The krona fell by 7% in two days and by more than 15% in a month as financial companies and banks sounded warnings about risk in Iceland. So today, with Icelandic benchmark rates around 15%, that episode serves as a reminder of how quickly things can change.

According to the latest statistics from the Basel-based Bank for International Settlements, the dollar is still on one side of 88% of the world's currency transactions. That makes it very difficult for stable dollar trends to develop and undercuts the utility of the greenback as a funding currency.

Moreover, Gilmore of Foreign Exchange Analytics points to other factors acting against the dollar assuming the mantle of a funding currency. Markets are generally unsettled and that's never a good environment for the carry trade, as reversals can come on rapidly and without warning. Analysts are still debating whether the dollar has finally reached a long-term bottom and will show convincing signs of a turnaround in the near future. That would be fatal for carry trades funded by dollars.

In addition, with all the attention on the credit crisis, U.S. banks may be less than willing to loan money for carry trades. Taken together, there's little indication that the conditions are right for the dollar to assume the role of a funding currency. Investors sitting on piles of greenbacks may choose to place them in non-dollar-denominated assets in hopes of better returns, but that type of strategy doesn't involve a loan, so it's not a carry trade.

chocolat - 11 Apr 2008 09:37 - 9633 of 11056

Looking better all the time, Hil :)

MightyMicro - 11 Apr 2008 09:45 - 9634 of 11056

Very nice header, Hil, I like it. A tad wide for my laptop screen, but it's OK on my 22 incher.

hilary - 11 Apr 2008 09:51 - 9635 of 11056

For some inexplicable reason, the scripts for the chart and rates keep causing my web editor (FrontPage) to freeze, chocopops, so it's becoming a bit of a problem.

I'll keep at it.

hilary - 11 Apr 2008 09:56 - 9636 of 11056

Interesting, MM, I can play about with the widths easily enough.

chocolat - 11 Apr 2008 09:57 - 9637 of 11056

I haven't the first clue how you do that stuff - so well done you!

Seymour Clearly - 11 Apr 2008 10:02 - 9638 of 11056

Looking very good Hil, might need the rates below the chart. OK on my lappy but not sure some of my desk screens will cope.

jeffmack - 11 Apr 2008 10:04 - 9639 of 11056

Hils
Dont you have some ironing to do

hilary - 11 Apr 2008 10:13 - 9640 of 11056

OK. I've reduced the width a bit. It needs tidying up, but is it better or does it need reducing further?

chocolat - 11 Apr 2008 10:19 - 9641 of 11056

Absolutely fine thanks.

hilary - 11 Apr 2008 10:26 - 9642 of 11056

I've tidied it up a bit.

The table is now set at 900 pixels wide and I've reduced the width of the rates to make the chart as wide as possible. Will that suit everyone's screen settings?
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