Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dilbert,

The government can control undesirable immigration easily with or without Brexit, simply by removing some of the reasons why immigrants choose to go to the UK (ie. free housing, healthcare, benefits). That was their promise in 2010 and they've failed miserably.

Do you seriously think Brexit will change any of that?

the ones with worthless degrees who couldn't accept they weren't worth in excess of £25k in their first job


i'm pretty sure european courts decreed uk was not allowed to discriminate

An EU member state can easily control immigration without needing to discriminate, Cyners. We've discussed that previously.

Manuel,

It depends on how you measure worth.

Some may consider you pretty worthless.


Pretty is probably the wrong word.

That's not a solution hils. Only way it would have been acceptable within EU rules was if it were applied to everyone.

We shouldn't have to punish our own citizens to control immigration.

You can easily change the rules without punishing you own, Dilbert.

Nah hils. Cammy tried to persuade the EU on that when he went looking for a deal before the Brexit vote and all they offered was some half cocked temporary measures.

It's not just about immigration anyway , look at the way Poland and Hungary are flouting the rules and there's nothing the EU can do about it.

The whole thing is a shambles and we may be the first to leave but we won't be the last.

Dil,

You will have to stop looking over your shoulder in hope.

i wouldn't disagree, but then i don't have any kind of degree
however, to supplement my modest wage in my 20's i drove a minicab in the evenings, and eventually made a niche for myself

No need to hope Fred , won't make a difference to the UK one way or another unless the whole EU implodes and that's not out of the question.

Manuel,

I will have to start calling you Taxi.

This was PROJECT FEAR.

This was lies - Remain LIES. Loads of them in 2016 to try to scare people into voting REMAIN.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/04/imf-peak-pessimism-brexit-eu-referendum-european-union-international-monetary-fund


The same people are at it again, spreading lies and misinformation to try to push for a 2nd vote, an exit to Brexit.

The losing liars are disgusting.

REMAIN LIES IN 2016

And they have the audacity to say Leave lied ???????????

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-impact-recession-eu-referendum-credit-suisse-employment-job-hiring-a7136541.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2016/06/27/brexit-aftermath-goldman-sachs-predicts-u-k-will-enter-a-mild-recession-in-2017/#2285e00a525f

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36355564

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/12/bank-of-england-keeps-interest-rates-on-hold-as-brexit-fears-bite

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/brexit-vote-leaves-uk-on-brink-of-recession-economists-say


REMAIN LIARS............who conned people into voting REMAIN in 2016.

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It's hardly been mentioned since the vote but I reckon a lot more people would have voted to leave if it weren't for the crap spouted by Cammy , Osbourne and the rest of project fear.

Tens and probably hundreds of thousands would have relied on the rubbish that came through the letter box and that was being banded around be the then PM and his Chancellor.

All we hear is a few remoaners moaning that us leave voters didn't know what we were voting for.

If they ran it again I reckon it would be nearer 60/40 in favour of leaving but to do so in the near future would be un democratic and pave the way for the remoaners to have a new vote every few years a bit like what the SNP are trying to do.

183 days left now for our much needed “informed “ referendum.

I don't know if this has any legs to it, but polar is a bit of a newshound and don't miss much.




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From Telegraph readers' comments:

Timeline as reported in several news outlets now:

Sunday: finalization of documents

Monday: deal to be revealed to the uk cabinet, thereafter joint press conference of Barnier and Raab

Tuesday: internal discussion EU

Wednesday: approval in EU meeting

unquote

much more interesting is whether or not the whole thing will be derailed by one faction or another

imho, tm has actually done a very good job under almost impossible conditions and strain
by and large, she has made a decision and stuck with it

for sure fred will rubbish this, and tell us what a splendid chap jc is, and that his prevarication across the whole issue, and still trying to back all horses at the same is absooutely the correct approach

Taxi!

Taxi!.

Party at No 10 at conservative party standards.

Loyalty or self-serving incompetents planning for their own futures.

Stan , you have the same Math teacher as Abbott ?

165 days to go.