for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

packaging exhibition in Birmingham 27-29th this month. Still waiting for my ticket. Plan to attend
Not worried....concerned

Thanks worrier

flustered!

As I was saying ealier, several Biotec product RNS's or deals to come over the next few months, including this product .... now try and tell me Stanelco aren't cheap right now :)))




Patent from Biotec .... cigarette filter .... market size 5700,000,000,000 units per annum !!!!

Biodegradable filter material and method for its manufacture


Abstract
There is provided a biodegradable filter tow or filter material from renewable raw materials for the use as a tobacco smoke filter element of cigarettes, cigars or pipes as well as a method for preparing it, wherein fibers, films or foams prepared in an extrusion method from biopolymers based on thermoplastic starch or its polymer compositions are processed to the filter tow or filter material according to the present invention. The advantages of this invention reside in the use of mainly renewable raw materials, a fast and complete biodegradability of the natural biopolymer filter material, a pollutant-reducing flavor-increasing filtering effect and an economically favorable preparation method.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=3&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=Natuverpackungen&OS=Natuverpackungen&RS=Natuverpackungen


Three-quarters of all tobacco users are now in developing countries, and they consume nearly 60 percent of the 5700 billion cigarettes worldwide smoked each year, says the report.

http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/new_full_story.php?subcatcode=17&subcatname=&newscode=1145594780


In 2003, BAT produced 792 billion cigarettes worldwide, with a global market share of 14.6 per cent.

792 / 14.6 x 100 = 5424,000,000,000 cigarettes in 2003

http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/new_full_story.php?subcatcode=17&subcatname=&newscode=1145594780


Cheers,
PM

Check out all these Biotec Patents ....

http://v3.espacenet.com/results?IA=NATURVERPACK+&sf=q&FIRST=1&CY=gb&LG=en&DB=EPODOC&st=IA&kw=NATURVERPACK+&Submit=SEARCH&=&=&=&=&=

Masterson

No one is interested in your looney ideas, take them to a chat room; this is a Stanelco thread after all.

ps The difference between a patent and getting every cigarette manufacturer in the world to buy your idea once you've invented it is HUGE, no need for sheets of googled stuff on how many ciggies are smoked each year; theirs a good chap.

"Tobacco is a $200 billion dollar industry producing 8 billion kilograms of tobacco and 6 trillion cigarettes annually."

http://www.wildchildmagazine.com/display.php?id=188〈=en



The worlds largest tobacco producers are:
China National Tobacco Company 31%
Philip Morris 17%
British American Tobacco (BAT) 13%
RJR Reynolds 6%
Rothmans International 4%

another snort of coke, another google, another god-like idea for Seo to rule the world....

LOL !!

He really needs to leave that darkened room once in a while, wonder if a nice girlfriend and escaping his mothers clutches would help?

Paul

Have you emailed them all informing them of the Biotec patent application?

Remember and keep your replies secret now won't you lad.

zscrooge = squelched ....

Both of the last two posts of yours that I have read, were pish poor snidey remarks aimed at me, if you can't do better than that, you ain't worth reading ....

Just like the ADVFN thread of old, only SEO was 4p then!

Go on .... click the button .... you know it makes sense ....


Squelch a user

oh come on kids, stop abusing each other. Else big Kong will have to come in and bang a few heads together.

PM1, like your research and informative posts. Maybe less abuse.

Sham, like to hear your opposing opinion, but back it up with some facts. Did you say you bought some today or was that someone else?

Kong

For my sins I did buy today, purely trading reasons as I think we'll see a technical bounce tomorrow from this oversold territory. Couple of up days perhaps then the fall should continue, may be an opportunity for some to bail if anyone was thinking about it. Your money though so do as you wish.

One notes paul still gets upset with my postings even though he claims to have squelched me long ago, some things never change as he's never filtered anyone in his life; tripping him up is fun though:-)

Target found and e-mailed ....


http://www.bat.com/



British American Tobacco is the worlds second largest quoted tobacco group. With more than 300 brands in our portfolio, we make the cigarette chosen by one in seven of the worlds one billion adult smokers. We hold robust market positions in each of our regions and have leadership in more than 50 of the 180 markets where we do business. The Group has 81 cigarette factories in 64 countries, producing some 853 billion cigarettes in 2004 (including the make-your-own cigarette 'stix'). The Group also has 9 Other Tobacco Products (OTPs) factories in 7 countries which manufacture cigars, roll-your-own and pipe tobacco. Our companies, including associated companies, employ more than 90,000 people worldwide.

For what its worth, fundamentally the "potential" has not changed for SEO.
They have a lot of good ideas in many fields with patents galore, many ideas that "could" change the face of packaging.
Now the difficult bit, ARE THEY AND CAN THEY BRING THIS TO MARKET WITH REAL AND SIGNIFICANT ORDERS? At the moment it would appear that this isn't happening, even if Northern Foods are involved it won't take the number of machines much above 20 at this stage and that means that fundamentally the bread is not being brought to the table.
There is a world of difference between potential and profits, my own view has been to take good profits yesterday and retain some long-term as I expect that the market may continue to react badly in the short term to the lack of progress.
Yes I know I've been an SEO supporter and still believe in the potential but the profits better in my bank thank you and I'm sure the BPRG crowd wish they'd banked theirs. I expect to get back in again at a lower price when there is more clarity AND if my hunch is wrong and good deals with real profit visibility are announced shortly I have dosh to get straight back in and make more profit.

No ramping or de-ramping here, just an honest personal assessment of the position of SEO sp in the market at the current time. Fundamental potential unchanged but sadly at this time fundamental profits not altered much either. If it all comes good this will still be a massive profit maker for patient investors.

I'm still in, still believe in the potential but have withdrawn profits. Lessons learnt before that personal views mean nothing to the market and your profit can soon disappear. Good luck everyone whatever you decide.

ps, won't be able to reply to any comments about the above as I am off travelling in the world of packaging. I expect some SEO investors who know my views since 4-6p may be disappointed that I've taken profit for now but I have to be realistic that the market is against SEO at the moment, there is no point cutting my nose to spite my face and losing the dosh I've made.They need confirmed significant orders to budge the sp now, not more potential. As long as Asda cuts costs will they progress several hundred machines, who really knows??
If all comes good sp will still see 50p, but I think its a while off yet and I'll let the market settle and SEO deliver the goods before I step back in with a significant purchase. Good Luck.

In 2003, BAT produced 792 billion cigarettes worldwide, with a global market share of 14.6 per cent.

792 / 14.6 x 100 = 5424,000,000,000 cigarettes in 2003

cigarette filters is the one I'm thinking about

Sham,

Do you just trade or do you hold any long term stocks?

Kong

Andy Hi,

Your going to miss all those near term RNS's .... one could be Walmart at the time ot the show in October ....

Cheers,
PM

WAL-MART TO ANNOUNCE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES AT THE SUSTAINABLE PACKAGING FORUM

August 25, 2005

Wal-Mart is officially on board. Hold on, packaging industry.

The world's largest retailer and conductor of the global supply chain train will unveil and publicly outline for the first time its sustainable packaging initiatives at Packaging Strategies' Sustainable Packaging Forum, Oct. 17-19, 2005, in Philadelphia.

http://www.packstrat.com/

The relationship between Wal-Mart and NatureWorks is a"collaboration," wherein NatureWorks will assist Wal-Mart and SAM'S CLUB in their development of a comprehensive sustainability initiative and implementation of sustainable packaging materials.


Big names at the Sustainable Packaging Forum .... see how many big packaging names you can spot .... you can pretty much guarantee Stanelco staff will be there 'networking' between presentations :)


http://www.packstrat.com/FILES/HTML/Conferences_and_Events/conferences-sustainablepackaging-program/