for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

In 2003, BAT produced 792 billion cigarettes worldwide, with a global market share of 14.6 per cent.

792 / 14.6 x 100 = 5424,000,000,000 cigarettes in 2003

cigarette filters is the one I'm thinking about

Sham,

Do you just trade or do you hold any long term stocks?

Kong

Andy Hi,

Your going to miss all those near term RNS's .... one could be Walmart at the time ot the show in October ....

Cheers,
PM

WAL-MART TO ANNOUNCE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES AT THE SUSTAINABLE PACKAGING FORUM

August 25, 2005

Wal-Mart is officially on board. Hold on, packaging industry.

The world's largest retailer and conductor of the global supply chain train will unveil and publicly outline for the first time its sustainable packaging initiatives at Packaging Strategies' Sustainable Packaging Forum, Oct. 17-19, 2005, in Philadelphia.

http://www.packstrat.com/

The relationship between Wal-Mart and NatureWorks is a"collaboration," wherein NatureWorks will assist Wal-Mart and SAM'S CLUB in their development of a comprehensive sustainability initiative and implementation of sustainable packaging materials.


Big names at the Sustainable Packaging Forum .... see how many big packaging names you can spot .... you can pretty much guarantee Stanelco staff will be there 'networking' between presentations :)


http://www.packstrat.com/FILES/HTML/Conferences_and_Events/conferences-sustainablepackaging-program/

Enjoy your travels Andy.

I can only assume the Northern foods award by ASDA has spooked you and many others.

The fundamentals have not changed and there is NO bad news. I do however respect your personal choice.

KK

Mostly trading, very little money to be made buying and holding; changed days!

Made a lot by following Pauls ramps then shorting them, prefer making money on the long side though.

GOTYA

So Ferndale trials not transpiring into a deal is not bad news?!

Just read the last couple of days posts and can honestly say I have never heard such a load of irrelevant bullshit as has been mentioned by those bashing SEO regarding the Northern Foods contract. Talk about seeing the small picture....

Have SEO / ASDA not already announced the conversion of several hundred machines in the next 12 months? If only 300, at 30k / machine, PE of 25 that gives a mcap of $225m and ignores any other conversions for ASDA, ignores a Walmart or other US deal, ignores Starpol, Frogpack and the countless other opportunities. OK the profits have not been delivered yet but if they had do you think SEO would be 17p? Investing is all about spotting the opportunity before its reflected in the sp. Traders can play this and good luck to them but for those investing for the medium to long term I have not seen such potential with any other company elsewhere. Anthing other than a sharp rise tomorrow and I'm in for another 100 000 to take me to 700 000.

One Q, given there appeared to be 5 million more sells than buys today does anyone know if this means that the MMs are now holding this stock?

I see fromm the thread list that the sham is still posting, I also had an email to say most of it was abuse directed at me, but the sham is squelched by me, so it shows what a loser the sham is, posting abuse at someone who never sees it, I bet the sham loves sticking knives in other peoples backs too ....

dawall Hi,

Yes the stock would be on the MM's books, not the same as an MM buy where they personally own the stock though.

I suggest looking at the trades and their times too, as many of the sells may well be buys ....

Cheers,
PM

Actually PM1 I did ask Sham about his trading position and whether he bought any in SEO. He admitted he's a trader and fair play to him. I for one am not a trader and although have done in the past (some successfully some not), each peson to their own.

I guess it's just a game of chess and I still believe in the potential of SEO. As for having anymore funds available...well if I could have bet On Grimbsy beating Spurs then I would have (but being a Spurs fan that would go against my position!!).

Kong

Paul

A market maker buy does not mean they own the stock for themselves!

Market makers make cash by trading the stock, it's a riskless transaction where they take stock on and sell it off higher; whether thats done via sells or mm buys is irellavent as it's all going to be sold off higher later on.

The more I read your posts the more I realise what a bluff your playing here, you don't have a clue do you?

KKB Hi,

I don't care how the sham makes money, so long as it doesn't involve posting continual abuse directed at me, especially when I have the basher squelched, and do not want to see his drivel, and he knows it, so why doesn't he stop ?

I know his days are numbered here, I know a lot more than he and many others will give me credit for, and thats why I keep buying more shares, even though my average price is creeping up, I know what I will be selling them for, whether I have to wait 3 years or 5 years, and it will make me millions more than the sham will by trading them over that time.

Cheers,
PM

Shamona's name comes from the fact that he pretends to buy SEO occasionally so that he has a reason to comment.

Sham Owner

He isn't clever enough to buy any. He hates them for "stealing" a patent from his beloved BPRG and bringing about their demise. That's how he thinks.

Don't talk to him; he's laughing at you.

Halfamil Hi,

Not as long or loud as I will be laughing back ....

Cheers,
PM

Target found and e-mailed ....


The worlds largest tobacco producers - Philip Morris 17%

World market is 5700,000,000,000 so 17% is 969,000,000,000 cigarettes produced per year !!!!

http://www.philipmorrisusa.com/en/home.asp

Target found and e-mailed ....

R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company (R.J. Reynolds) is the second-largest tobacco company in the United States, manufacturing about one of every three cigarettes sold in the country.

They also produce 6% of the World figure of 5700,000,000,000 which is 342,000,000,000 cigarettes !!!!

http://www.rjrt.com/home.asp

shamona,

I'm not currently invested here (I was and am watching with a view) but I am interested in Pauls research so don't pretend you speak for me or all SEO investors.

I'm sure we're all big boys (and girls) and can make up our own minds. Unless of course your research posted here is superior!

well done , andy.

As you can see from the two previous drops, there was a quick recovery.

In the first case it went from 18.25p to 22p, the next one went from 18.25p to 21.25p, and now we are looking at 17p going back up to 20.25p, or as in the two previous spikes, just above the 50 M.A

Thats without any news of course :)

Also the 200 M.A won't be dropping for a long time yet, certainly not before news pushes it upward again anyway .... LOL !

Still watching closely Paul!

I have a feeling It wont be long till I'm back in here and when it comes it'll be for the long term as i originally planned. Just need the 'right' RNS!

Had a feeling things might take a little longer than some expected but encouraged by all that's going on in the background so to speak.