SueHelen
- 06 Oct 2005 19:29
edited by moneyam
Gausie
- 21 Jan 2006 10:33
- 972 of 1904
Now, speak up - does anyone believe SueHelen has any integrity in what she posts here?
Does anyone here believe that she has any motive other than to cheat gullible investors out of their money? Speak up.
blinger
- 21 Jan 2006 11:05
- 973 of 1904
dazaferguson
- 21 Jan 2006 11:37
- 974 of 1904
woof woof
Put this flea ridden mongrel to sleep.
Gausie
- 21 Jan 2006 11:40
- 975 of 1904
>>dazaferguson
I feel that's a little unkind. SH needs treatment, not capital punishment.
G
SueHelen
- 21 Jan 2006 11:40
- 976 of 1904
What and switch to HRR....the dog u have been ramping for weeks Dil with different aliases....no thanks.....u lot are already looking like fools with the 100% rise so far...more shame for u lot to come soon.
These lot are scared of you and the actual one liner ramping that you do Dil......I would be as well....suppose!
Gausie
- 21 Jan 2006 12:06
- 977 of 1904
>>DMR Holders
If you've bought into SH's ramp and are wondering what to do, you're probably thinking "I can't sell yet cos its not quite covered my buy price .... just a few more fractions of a penny and I'm out".
What do you do?
Firstly - you need to ensure that the money you have invested into DMR is within your comfort zone. Ask yourself "Will I mind if I lose it all?" If the answer is "no, I'm happy to lose the lot", then play this however you see fit. Maybe you'll make some money, maybe you'll lose your entire investment.
If it's "I can't lose it all, I wont be able to face my bank manager /partner /kids /parents /landlord/ gasman (delete as appropriate)" then you need to take a long hard look at the way you trade, and you *must* reduce the size of your holding to the level where you don't mind losing all of what's left - even if you have to take a small loss on the tranche that you sell. Bad tasting medicine, I know, but infinitely preferable to the alternative. Get yourself onto a risk management course.
A pump and dump scheme usually has the perpetrator buying at low levels for some weeks prior to the pump stage, after which they promote the share in the way that SH is now. They may buy a few during the pump and make sure everyone knows that they're buying, but they'll also sell a few more to take profits. It's the victims of the scheme who buy the shares the fraudster is selling.
When the fraudster thinks that she's unable to inflate the price any further, or has reached her profit targets, she'll start selling a lot harder. This is the 'Dump' stage of a pump and dump. She'll claim on the BBs that holders should 'keep the faith', she'll blame the shorters, she'll try to encourage people to top up and she'll promise lashings and lashings of jam tomorrow. She may buy a few and publicise the buys just to cover her tracks. But on the whole, she'll be selling.
At this point, the price may yoyo a little but the fraudster's selling is putting an overall downward pressure on the share price.
At some stage soon we get a 'race to the exit'. Some of the mugs who have been suckered in, start to realise what's happened and they too sell. The fraudster sees the sells, realises the game is up and dumps all of her remaining holdings.
The price drops, often by as much as 75% in a matter of days or hours. Those who are lucky enough to get out do so. The first ones to get out see a small profit or a small loss. Those who aren't so lucky typically leave the share certificate in a bottom drawer somewhere, determined to wait until they can get their money back before selling. Usually they never do. Some will wait forever, and have effectively lost their whole investment, others may sell a year or two later, perhaps at 1% of their purchase price.
Trade this share if you must - but keep your wits about you.
SueHelen
- 21 Jan 2006 12:17
- 978 of 1904
The sun is shining outside....surely u must be tired now after being cooked up in here all week..Did u do any trading or do we not have nowt better to do.
capetown
- 21 Jan 2006 12:18
- 979 of 1904
Hi Sue
Iqe holding up and hopefully good news soon will lift the price somewhat,
have been away all week so just catching up on all the posts and flak!!
watching and waiting.
jemadi
- 21 Jan 2006 12:20
- 980 of 1904
Thanks Gausie for an excellent post- I wish it had been there a year ago to read !!!
SueHelen
- 21 Jan 2006 12:22
- 981 of 1904
Hi capetown...hope ur well.
IQE is now 11 pence to buy.....you should do quite well after buying at 10 pence.....apparently Gausie is trying to buy a truck load of IQE but at 11 pence....poor soul spends so much time here that he will paying higher prices for those.....just like when he eventually gets into DMR once the news starts coming through.
I think he ended buying my RDG at 43 pence this week after not buying at 34 pence when the thread started. And the other one was CLS....he ended buying at 1.30 pence after not buying at 0.60 pence.
Biggest one of all he did not buy DMR......that will hurt him...should do already...but even more soon.
All the above in the last month.....come on Gausie....last month must have been horrible for u then trading wise.
Andy
- 21 Jan 2006 12:28
- 982 of 1904
Dil,
I think I've heard of that condition on one of Sue Helen's ramping threads before!
I think it occurs between 'pump' and 'dump'
capetown
- 21 Jan 2006 12:28
- 983 of 1904
Gausie
I read your post with interest,
i am No expert and have to say your post really is just as discriptive as newspaper tipsters who tip at weekends and mon/tues price goes up then big boys sell and the readers are usually the ones who loose out on a wed.
I am happy to have taken sue helens reasearch on bpoard
i MADE MY OWN choice to buy not influenced other than MY OWN decision.
you win some you loose some
i DO take offence at some of the posts who suggest that those who have bought are IDIOTS.we all make our own choices,And all those posting such defamatory posts if they were as good as they say they would be millionares by now and not have the time to be posting on here.
Gausie
- 21 Jan 2006 12:34
- 984 of 1904
>>SH - actually I'm having a tremendous trading month, many of my trades have been posted as I made them on the traders' thread on the subscription BB here. On one share alone I've taken 23 points on 20,000 units, topped up, and am now showing a further paper profit of 21 points on 115,000 units on a share sufficiently liquid that I could unwind in a day without hitting the price by more than 1% or so. I wish every month were this good! And it's been done without suckering naive investors out of their life savings.
Pay a tenner, subscribe to the traders BB and it's all there in black and white.
As for me buying the penny shares you mention above - pure fantasy from you, as always.
G
Gausie
- 21 Jan 2006 12:38
- 985 of 1904
>>capetown -
No offence intended, please accept my apologies if you read it as such. If you keep your sizing sensible, understand the risks, and are simply 'having a punt' then the best of luck to you.
There are also genuine idiots out there to whom I make no apology - they're the ones in cloud cuckoo land who have invested more than they can afford to lose. Mainly on the 'strength' of suehelens utterly reprehensible postings.
G
capetown
- 21 Jan 2006 12:41
- 986 of 1904
Good to hear
Good luck to you too GAUSIE
Gausie
- 21 Jan 2006 12:53
- 987 of 1904
>>capetown
I want to take issue with your comparing pump and dump to newspaper tipsters. It does have similar features with, for example, the activities of the daily mirror's City Slickers scandal - but it ends there.
SH only P&D's low liquidity penny stocks - those shares where a modicum of publicity/buying pressure creates a disproportionately large amount of share price volatility. Typically they have such a small NMS that experienced traders just ignore the threads, leaving people like SH with an audience qualified in as small players with big hopes and dreams.
And that's a huge difference.
You have clearly learned how to trade weekend newspaper tips - but the fact that they still rise unsustainably on on the monday shows that there's an awful lot of naivity out there. Wouldn't you try to help these people if you could?
>>jemadi - thanks for your post. Were you suckered in to something like this last year? Care to relate your story if it's not too painful? Perhaps you could describe the emotions you go through in the early stages, and as you begin to realise how you've been manipulated, and finally how it affects you when it's all done and dusted?
G
Andy
- 21 Jan 2006 15:04
- 988 of 1904
Capetown,
Whilst people that knock Sue Helen's ramping of illiquid shares to naive newbie punters (in order to enrich himself!) may not be millionaires as you rightly point out, they haven't gone broke either!
Ask yourself this question, does Suehelen post all day long on these illiquid stock threads for your benefit, or HIS benefit?
SueHelen
- 21 Jan 2006 17:05
- 989 of 1904
The derampers can't still muster more than one line then...surprise me someone with a full page analysis on DMR.
dazaferguson
- 21 Jan 2006 17:28
- 990 of 1904
yes DIL I agree with Suehelen stop ramping HRR theres a good chap.
SueHelen
- 21 Jan 2006 17:32
- 991 of 1904
dazaferguson = dil............surprise the smart ones and kings here haven't spotted you Dil...what were the other ones...brian flynn and wfcbarmyarmy and there was a couple more weren't there.