Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

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Fred but what you need is policies not proposals - We AIM to do this - we aim to do that.

No what is needed, is we ARE going to do this, and this is how we are going to do it. All parties do the first AIM but fail to deliver because of corruption.

Without the road plan how these things are to be done they are nothing more than tripe.

Actions speak louder than words, and Labours actions are worse than that of all the other main parties historically, hence the mess they got the country time andtime again.

CT just when you seemed to be posting some truth this morning you then go and spoil it with that last sentence.

The usual scare mongerings by the “Con”servative Party/Government over time, one of which is to always blame someone else for their deliberate Ill concieved acts when in government..one example below.

A) It was all the Labour governments fault that the “World financial crash” of ‘08 was their fault when in fact it was not.

B) In fact if the Con artists had been in power it would have been a whole lot worst for the UK as the then Tory Party chairmen Grant Shapps was openly erging the Labour Government to relax the “Lite Touch” rules in the City, thankfully that nonessential piece of advice was rightly ignored.

Stan, the problem voters have is that the Labour Party then bears no resemblance to the current Labour Party.

251, Manuel and CT,

You can print this and hang it on your prayer walls.

Tax harmonisation should be fun; Ireland will be chipper.

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Dil [Send an email to Dil] [View Dil's profile] - 21 Oct 2018 00:38 - 9740 of 9758
Omg did you see how scruffy those marchers looked ?
99 per cent were probably east European and the other 1 per cent Chelsea fans living abroad !

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English Chelsea fan this is your last game (Hey!)
We're not Galatasary We're Sparta F.C. (Hey!)

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Cheap English man in the paper shop
You mug old women in your bobble hat
Better go spot a place to rest
No more ground boutique at match in Chelsea
We are Sparta F.C.!
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Cheers,
KidA

Oh no not you as well Stan - another Labour Man. Without going back to far, I guess you ignore the likes of what Wilson caused in his time. Mind you I guess you have put that in your pipe and smoked it along with all the other problems various labour gov`s have caused.

As for Brown he can never live down the "The Bigot" when talking about one of his own labour voters that he then tried groveling too. Two faced like all the rest.

No fan of GBrown and his financial prowess... that was a momentary gaff and should be forgotten.
GB was the only "World Leader" to be positive as the 2007/8 Banking Crisis unfolded - most were just open-mouthed in disbelief. For that he should be commended, but as he was partly to blame for the UK being sucked into the crisis "little by little" he should have known it would end in tears.
I agree Labour Gov appear to fail rather often -probably "listening to all factions" is fundamentally flawed....
BUT our PM, Mrs May has tenacity, granted...most would have jumped-ship by now ( many have!!!). Yet she can't still believe Chequers is alive and well - It's a dead deal, right from the start.

George and CT please go back and read my "factual" post before replying rather then going on to some other point, thank you.

Stan is that the same "factual" sort of posts that Fred belives are "Factual" when the only true fact is that we are all able to post what we like (WITHIN REASON) about our elected partners or for that matter the Royal Family and the system that keeps them in place and the majority where they want them.

Would you like to see your leader give a straight answer - Yes or No when asked a straight question like will you vote to support TM if she keeps the UK in the customs union?

Tell you what, Jc could or would not answer Yes or No if asked if he would like his coffee black or white. He would think there must be a racist catch in the question, so would say something like " If I had to choose tea or coffee, I think I would have to say that more often than not I drink water"

CT do stop wasting time..go and go now.

i agree with little that CT writes, but he's spot on with the last para above

Ha ha and what do you know Alf where politics are concerned..not a lot from past experience on here.

So CT just go back and read slowly, digest and then come back with something constructive and relevant on the post.

KidA :-)

is that so stan .... the presumptuousness of a callow youth

And another thing you know little about Alf...Youth😀

cheeky boy ..... i/we have brought up 3 children who now range between 32 and 37, and there are also now 4 small grandchildren (too young to be relevant) :-)

Run out of steam after three did you cynic or was there no lead left in the pencil? :-)

vasectomy! ..... easy choice and painless and quick

Rather you than me, was that before or after the children were born?