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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

KidA - 22 Oct 2018 13:34 - 9759 of 12628

Tax harmonisation should be fun; Ireland will be chipper.

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Dil [Send an email to Dil] [View Dil's profile] - 21 Oct 2018 00:38 - 9740 of 9758
Omg did you see how scruffy those marchers looked ?
99 per cent were probably east European and the other 1 per cent Chelsea fans living abroad !

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English Chelsea fan this is your last game (Hey!)
We're not Galatasary We're Sparta F.C. (Hey!)

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Cheap English man in the paper shop
You mug old women in your bobble hat
Better go spot a place to rest
No more ground boutique at match in Chelsea
We are Sparta F.C.!
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Cheers,
KidA

Clocktower - 22 Oct 2018 14:33 - 9760 of 12628

Oh no not you as well Stan - another Labour Man. Without going back to far, I guess you ignore the likes of what Wilson caused in his time. Mind you I guess you have put that in your pipe and smoked it along with all the other problems various labour gov`s have caused.

As for Brown he can never live down the "The Bigot" when talking about one of his own labour voters that he then tried groveling too. Two faced like all the rest.



hangon - 22 Oct 2018 15:03 - 9761 of 12628

No fan of GBrown and his financial prowess... that was a momentary gaff and should be forgotten.
GB was the only "World Leader" to be positive as the 2007/8 Banking Crisis unfolded - most were just open-mouthed in disbelief. For that he should be commended, but as he was partly to blame for the UK being sucked into the crisis "little by little" he should have known it would end in tears.
I agree Labour Gov appear to fail rather often -probably "listening to all factions" is fundamentally flawed....
BUT our PM, Mrs May has tenacity, granted...most would have jumped-ship by now ( many have!!!). Yet she can't still believe Chequers is alive and well - It's a dead deal, right from the start.

Stan - 22 Oct 2018 15:32 - 9762 of 12628

George and CT please go back and read my "factual" post before replying rather then going on to some other point, thank you.

Clocktower - 22 Oct 2018 17:26 - 9763 of 12628

Stan is that the same "factual" sort of posts that Fred belives are "Factual" when the only true fact is that we are all able to post what we like (WITHIN REASON) about our elected partners or for that matter the Royal Family and the system that keeps them in place and the majority where they want them.

Would you like to see your leader give a straight answer - Yes or No when asked a straight question like will you vote to support TM if she keeps the UK in the customs union?

Tell you what, Jc could or would not answer Yes or No if asked if he would like his coffee black or white. He would think there must be a racist catch in the question, so would say something like " If I had to choose tea or coffee, I think I would have to say that more often than not I drink water"

Stan - 22 Oct 2018 17:51 - 9764 of 12628

CT do stop wasting time..go and go now.

cynic - 22 Oct 2018 18:04 - 9765 of 12628

i agree with little that CT writes, but he's spot on with the last para above

Stan - 22 Oct 2018 18:11 - 9766 of 12628

Ha ha and what do you know Alf where politics are concerned..not a lot from past experience on here.

So CT just go back and read slowly, digest and then come back with something constructive and relevant on the post.

Dil - 22 Oct 2018 18:38 - 9767 of 12628

KidA :-)

cynic - 22 Oct 2018 19:59 - 9768 of 12628

is that so stan .... the presumptuousness of a callow youth

Stan - 23 Oct 2018 13:20 - 9769 of 12628

And another thing you know little about Alf...Youth😀

cynic - 23 Oct 2018 13:31 - 9770 of 12628

cheeky boy ..... i/we have brought up 3 children who now range between 32 and 37, and there are also now 4 small grandchildren (too young to be relevant) :-)

Clocktower - 23 Oct 2018 14:35 - 9771 of 12628

Run out of steam after three did you cynic or was there no lead left in the pencil? :-)

cynic - 23 Oct 2018 14:56 - 9772 of 12628

vasectomy! ..... easy choice and painless and quick

Clocktower - 23 Oct 2018 15:08 - 9773 of 12628

Rather you than me, was that before or after the children were born?

cynic - 23 Oct 2018 15:22 - 9774 of 12628

hahaha!
what is it about men that they are terrified of a vasectomy, which is a 5 minute job and can actually be done under local anaesthetic, but would happily allow the infliction of major surgery of a hysterectomy on their wives?

Clocktower - 23 Oct 2018 15:33 - 9775 of 12628

Keeping everything up and running allows one to spread their investments world wide, a sprog here a sprog there cynic. Sow bountifully and reap bountifull rewards.

Is that not why so many want to stay in the EEC?

cynic - 23 Oct 2018 15:42 - 9776 of 12628

i'll avoid being what would be interpreted as being racist :-)

a pc answer might be that we felt 3 children were plenty and we could afford to pay for their education and other needs rather than leaching from the welfare system

Clocktower - 23 Oct 2018 15:56 - 9777 of 12628

Hopefully you pay your fair share and more into the system cynic, so to support the folks you call leaches, because they might be born to parents that have for example been ravaged by the system and the bankers that want their weight in blood.

I know a fish and chip shop owner that calls his customers peasants but as I remind him, its those peasants that have made him reasonably wealthy. Do not most of the top 5% live off the labours of the other 95%? So why begrudge a few living like the top 5% without having to do a real days work?

cynic - 23 Oct 2018 16:35 - 9778 of 12628

of course i do, and nor do i have any offshore accounts or similar

however, there is such a thing as "irresponsible parenthood" ....... that is to say, there is surely a responsibility not to bring more children into the world than you can afford to keep

and yes, i do resent paying for those who just work the system as opposed to being hit by circumstance
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