for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

ps whats a bots?

buying or selling a large amount in small bits so that the market isn`t spooked

qc:

Looks like one muddy Lemmings piece has scared the sh*t out of a lot of impatient people.
There is nothing muddy about our research. Our commentary was quite bullish for SEO`s long term prospects. However, we did note there was an area of confusion, which needed clarity.

It is our policy to report with honesty and clarity - warts and all. We do not attempt to paper over the cracks, or hype the facts. Its not ethical, regardless of our position.

Does the following pertain the title of accurate reporting?

Extracts from a 6 page report on lemming Investor 16 Sept `05

SEO arguably remains one of the most interesting of probable future giants of the LSE,
though it is still at a very early stage, and only just turning commercial.
It carries very high risk until the adoption of Greenseal by ASDA and its suppliers is
assured. Investment in the company is thus still entirely speculative and cannot yet be
based on any reputable forecast.

Nevertheless the current cap of 172m has so far run ahead of itself as to represent a very
high risk in the short term. The company will be lucky to reach 2m turnover for the year
ending 31 October, and if it does so, may just breakeven. To make the minimum 5m
annual profit to justify the current cap Stanelco will need to install at least 100 of the 200
sealing machines nominally contracted for ASDA.

End

I can not offer greater insight to what was report, as this would remove the benefit of subscribing - a point already laboured by one subscriber on this thread. A valid point. Nevertheless, I felt the need to clarify the issue you raised.

I hope I have removed the trees from your line of vision.

Kind regards

Elric

Good call by the looks of it Bhunt, well done.

shamona -

It is clear you have not read our report. There are no scare tactics, just good honest reporting of the facts. We have had no complaints about our reporting from subscribers thus far. You should take up your complaint with Tim Dolan of the FSA. Mr Dolan is well aware of us. He has in fact offered us advice in the past.

Read our disclaimer http://lemminginvestor.com/Disclaimer.html
we do not hide the fact we are not regulated. Indeed, what is regulation? www.t1ps.com have staff on their books working as editors/analysts, (one of which used to work for us) they are no more qualified than we are. Yet they are regulated. Why? Because they have the cash resources.......simple, we are not allowed to use the Queen`s English. i.e: Buy, sell or hold, etc. We have chosen not to pay the FSA for the privilege. This we believe, removes uncertainty.

Is moneyAm regulated?

Do you think it should?


Tim Dolan
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Tell that to the judge!

"Tell that to the judge!"

There is no need my friend, unless you have better advisors than we do.
I see no mileage in debating with an empty head.

You should be paying more attention to your own antics on this thread and others. Your behaviour has not exactly be exemplary has it. Your double standards are astonishing.

Topic is now closed:-)))

Elric

Hi All,

My chart in post 9749 is looking perfect now for a rise back to 20p+, and my prediction of yesterday that it would bounce, rather than the doom mongers 10p/4p/2p drivel, is again shown in the closing price.

2, maybe 3 trading days for 20p, looking at the time taken for the previous rises to hit the 50 M.A.

Any traders buying now will make a measily 10% over the next 3 days, if they stay that long, I will wait 3 to 5 years for 20+, that will give me 40,000% profit on my purchase at the current circa 5p average, whereas traders making 10% every 3 days would need a lot more than my 3 to 5 years to make that much profit, even on the compound gain of 10% per 3 days, and I have the added bonus of very nice dividends along the way .... ROTFLMAO at traders :))))

Cheers,
PM

PAUL, any chance of replying to the email i sent you to your site?

cheers
rgds
PT

well done baza. i was patting myself on my back this morning for closing my cfds yesterday. now i'm kicking my own arse!!!!! double loss!! ho hum!! rns tomorrow, methinks?

Elrico,

I used the term muddy as in my eyes the piece, at the time was not considered to be genuine, only answered that Northern Foods was not currently on SEO's list(whatever that means I am afraid is muddy to say the least) and has been replicated on other sites with what appears to be a post to someone on a BB before the report making it look shabby and frankly, a hoax. The fact that the first part of the replication elsewhere mentioned 2-4p by Xmas did not help!

I accept that you do report honestly although I am unsure of your motives for allowing part of your report, which seems to be the negative part in many peoples eyes(the reason why I said people had shat themselves) to be displayed on various BB's.

I am also still unsure from reading the piece in question, time after time, what clarification you actually have regarding Northern Foods? Do Stanelco have a list of ALL ASDA suppliers that they are to convert as part of the ASDA deal and if so did HW mean that Northern Foods are not on the list and never will be? There is a big difference between not now and they will be on Thursday morning. For that reason I still feel that the Northern Foods issue is muddy and requires clarification.

As I have already said, too much is made of Northern Foods IMO and if HW says they are still working with several ASDA suppliers it hardly suggests the crisis that many reading your report(the published bit) seem to believe.

Q.

Hey Bos - looks like I got a bit lucky today - lets hope tomorrow continues the trend

Baza

qc -

I can categorically and unequivocally deny Lemming Investor ever posting those price projection you mention. We often comment of charting signals, support levels, etc. At the time of our last report, we suggested the shares to be oversold. We certainly did not suggest a target of 10p or lower.

We can not be held responsible for other peoples actions. They have their motives - we make our clear. Or try:-)))

Let me clarify our stance. We believe SEO will, in time reward the patient investor, but may catch the short term traders out if, as we expect, the company announce further contracts for its GREENSEAL TM technology. And, as we expect - the Biotec value becomes more visible to the market.

All I can say, is Northern Foods is not on SEO`s current list, but they are working with several ASDA suppliers and will announce the milestones as and when appropriate to do so. No, SEO did not list ASDA`s suppliers. That would constitute a breach of confidence on SEO`s.....I assume.

We will then be in a position to revisit SEO

I am happy to discuss this privately should you wish. I am mindful not to abuse this threat for self promotion.

elric@lemminginvestor.com

PS: If you doubt our stance, I suggest you as PM.

Proptrade HI,

When did you send it ?

I can't see anything there from today or yesterday ?

Cheers,
PM

Deary me, elrico is now using Paul to validate his articles!

The biggest lying ramper these threads have ever seen now appears to be on the books of lemminginvestor, I remember the site when it was free to visit and Mr K used to post up some really good articles; now money must have changed things and Mr K has moved onto Tips.

Back to business.....

Nice strong finish to today which should carry on until the weekend, Stanelco will know the market needs to hear Greenseal news and I don't think they'll dissapoint.

Bet a few of you were twitching this morning:-)

Interesting to read about some of the recycing and waste saving that has been achieved, Stanelco will be a big player in this market soon enough ....

http://web.indstate.edu/recycle/caselist.html

Cheers,
PM

What an exciting day, glad I was out and missed the fun and games. Does this constitute a triple bottom or is one cheek too saggy?
No big trades after market close today, perhaps a little surprising after a 2.25p turnaround on the day, anyone think there are still large orders to fill?
Hi Bos, no plans to go to the MAM meeting in Manchester, more an investor than a trader!

ok so what has happened whilst I had to endure the M25 followed by the M40 all the way up to Warwick?

Blue day. Nice. Sham, looks like you may have scored with your trading!

Kong

Well there must be a strong possibility of an RNS tomorrow or Friday me thinks. I still favour Friday.

What an up and down day - had to change my trousers twice this morning - but still nothing has changed to make me think that this is nothing but a great company in the making - I think this management team is up to it - but time will tell.

Baza

Higher oil prices just make Starpol 2000 even more attractive, and in food packaging, only Greenseal can be used to seal it.

Rita a substantial threat to Gulf oil-EIA
Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:35 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hurricane Rita could have a "substantial impact" on U.S. Gulf Coast refineries, a situation that the nation's already tight gasoline market cannot afford, the head of the U.S. Energy Information Administration said on Wednesday.

Hurricane Rita was packing 150 mph winds as it churned through the Gulf of Mexico, with computer models forecasting landfall south of Houston on Saturday.

"There's a risk that we could have a substantial impact on further refineries," EIA Administrator Guy Caruso told a Senate Commerce Committee hearing on gasoline prices. "We clearly cannot afford any further disruptions in gasoline production and capacity."

Caruso's remarks echoed worries expressed by oil market traders.

Four large refineries in the Gulf Coast region, which together account for about 5 percent of U.S. capacity, remain out of service from Hurricane Katrina last month.

Soon after Katrina hit Louisiana and Mississippi on August 29, the nationwide average retail gasoline price jumped to $3.07 per gallon, nearly tying the inflation-adjusted high of $3.12 set in 1981.

Earlier on Wednesday, the EIA said Rita could threaten up to 18 Texas oil refineries that have a combined capacity of 4 million barrels per day, or nearly one-fourth of the nation's total refining capacity.

"While not all of this capacity would be affected under any scenario, it does point out how much refining capacity is at risk," the EIA said in a weekly oil market report.

Texas has 26 refineries, with 18 located near the Gulf of Mexico coastline, it said.

Marathon Oil (MRO.N: Quote, Profile, Research), Valero Energy Corp. (VLO.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and BP Plc (BP.L: Quote, Profile, Research) were among refiners that shut down or reduced operating rates at Texas refineries to prepare for Rita.

Thousands of workers were also evacuated from offshore drilling rigs and production platforms as a safety precaution.

"People were worried post-Katrina, as we have real tight product supply," said Jamal Qureshi, analyst at PFC Energy. "Now we have a hurricane heading for the bigger part of the coastal refinery center, threatening to blow a huge hole in products supply."

Valero, the nation's biggest refiner, said Rita's impact could be a "national disaster" and unleash retail gasoline prices above $3 a gallon.

Wholesale gasoline futures on the New York Mercantile Exchange settled at $2.0531 a gallon on Wednesday, up 7.65 cents. The futures price hit a record $2.92 a gallon soon after Katrina hit.