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Hey well done Foxey with the MT4 programming. The best I've managed so far is to use the Metaeditor to customise a few existing custom indicators to suit me better.

I do use Forex TSD and everyone there is very helpful. Unfortunately though, they say some things on there which I just don't understand. I even downloaded a whopping great PDF book telling me how to write indicators and EA's. After the first couple of pages I realised my limitations and decided that the Janet and John books made far better reading.

Out of interest, my preferred current system uses a combination of indicators from different timeframes - entering the market when they all line up and exiting when one of them turns. Is it possible to write an EA that would work along those lines?

Sorry double post. This board seems very slow recently. It can take a minute or two load a thread or post sometimes.

Hils,

Absolutely. You can mix any indicators from any timeframes though it does get pretty complex. In fact, you can go further than that and even base your decisions on one currency pair by checking the data of another. For example, say there is a correlation between two currency pairs but one lags the other. You can generate a signal from the leading pair to place an order in the lagging one. It is something I have been observing recently and want to look at programming something along those lines.

Most things are possibly. Just need clearly defined rules and a lot of programming and thorough testing!

Dunno if any FXers use the IG Index Puredeal platform, but they recently introduced trailing stops which I used today for the first time. Knew I was going to be away from the screen this morning but thought I recognised an opportunity to go long on EUR/JPY at 159.21. Set the stop 30 pips below the opening level with a 10 pip step. The stop kicked in at 16006 during the afternoon retracement and I was very chuffed to have locked in a much bigger profit than had I just left it to its own devices. Perhaps the only mistake I made was to use a 10 pip step rather than a 5.

Here's a date for your calendar: June 12

That's the date that Ireland goes to the polls for a referendum on the Lisbon treaty, the document dreamed up to replace the failed European constitution. Ireland has a habit of throwing a spanner in the works of European referendums and this vote comes very early in the tenure of the new, untested Irish prime minister. If Ireland fails to ratify the treaty, look for at least a brief period of turmoil as euro-skeptics use the vote to advocate breaking up the eurozone and reverting to national currencies. Most countries, fearful of a repeat of the debacle that surrounded the European constitution referendums in 2004 steered clear of a popular ratification and had national parliaments approve the treaty.

Hi all, Hils thanks for the warning, dont worry I have been around for long enough to know the basics, ;-) after all I designed the Concorde Method.

OK here are my reasons for having another look at FX.

1) Simple in concept
2) very responsive and reactive to world and country specific events (I believe)
3) FX may be easier to trade with better value that I can get on stocks (lower total charges) not confirmed yet.
4) Easy to trade anywhere anytime.
5) Potential for simpler semi automated trading (note I said semi automatic, I dont believe that fully automated would be safe)
6) Seems to have a much bigger dedicated following that it did a couple of years ago, at least on the internet, I see this as giving greater opertunities for developing and perfecting my trading method.
7) looks fun !

I may not be around for a while. I'm moving in a couple of weeks and BT, with their typical efficiency, have managed to disconnect my line ahead of schedule.

Dora from Delhi seems unable to resolve the problem. Unfortunately, it's the broadband line that they've disconnected and whilst it's still working now, I've got a horrible feeling that will be the next to go.

Broadband is generally left on the line until the next owner arrives, so you should be OK.

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--The dollar could extend its recent rally next week if key Federal Reserve officials offer support for the increasingly popular notion that the U.S. central bank is done cutting interest rates in the near term.

Economic data also might add to the greenback's three-week rebound, as a better-than-expected U.S. statistics would bolster the view of a Fed on hold.

Some market observers say the dollar may even push the euro down to the symbolic $1.50 level next week, a full dime under the single currency's all-time high above $1.60 it hit in April.

"The U.S. data has been coming in a little better than expected recently, and a continuation of that trend would certainly help the dollar next week," said Win Thin, currency strategist at Brown Brothers Harriman in New York. "Weaker data out of Europe would have the same effect. We may be seeing a shift in U.S. and European outlooks starting to develop."

On the flip side, the euro's declines this week did not break decisively below a technical level around $1.5340, which could suggest it still has upside potential against the buck. A disappointing reading on U.S. retail sales could lift the euro, though few expect it to return toward $1.60.

A return of stock market volatility, or weaker-than-expected U.S. data and indications by Fed officials that more rate cuts are possibly in the works, would also spell trouble for the buck. Risk aversion was evident in Friday's trading as high oil prices, concerns about slumping equities and a hawkish tone from the European Central Bank all weighed on the greenback.

With this as a backdrop, analysts say the euro could drift between $1.50 and $1.56 next week, while the dollar is likely to see tighter ranges against the yen. The U.S. currency could move between Y103.50 and Y105.50 next week.

Friday afternoon in New York, the euro was at $1.5458 from $1.5399 late Thursday, while the dollar was at Y102.95 from Y103.92. The euro was at Y159.18 from Y160.02, according to EBS. The U.K. pound was at $1.9487 from $1.9526 late Thursday, and the dollar was at CHF1.0424 from CHF1.0523.

The dollar has risen 4% against the euro since its record low in April. A modest recovery in U.S. stock markets has given currency traders a reason to fight for a dollar-comeback as well.

In the past, a sustained rally for U.S. equities has supported the greenback as investors from abroad buy dollars in order to snap up U.S. stocks. The dollar's strong appreciation between 1995 and 2000 was largely spurred by the stock market boom.

Adding fuel to the dollar's current recovery, a statement from the Fed in April hinted that, amid the calmer markets, it aims to stop reducing rates following 325 basis points worth of cuts since September.

But the Fed statement also left the door ajar for more rate cuts if needed. Investors now want to get a grip on which way the central bank is leaning. Speeches by Fed officials next week could provide an update.

The presidents of the Fed banks of Dallas, Kansas City and Philadelphia, each of whom have suggested their reluctance to cut rates further due to inflation worries, are due to speak next week. This could provide a steady stream of dollar-positive headlines.

But San Francisco Fed Bank President Janet Yellen, an influential member of the Fed who tends to be less hawkish on inflation than others, is also speaking next week. She has previously said that a weaker U.S. economy should help contain inflation, and if she reiterates this, the dollar could be hurt.

In Europe, currency traders will watch for first quarter economic growth data as well as regional industrial production data.

Hil Hope your move goes well. Thanks for all your hard work and support on this thread.

You asked about trailing stops. My current preferred method is to use the previous (if long) low before the previous high, i.e. two lows back. This seems to take a lot of the noise out.

Spaceman, you wanted to know people's methods of trading, and I think Hil answered it brilliantly. The things that have made the difference to me are:

1) don't go against the prevailing trend. If things are moving (say) down, look for a retracement or pause before committing to a short, maybe as Hil says, on a shorter timeframe.

2) Think about the margin. There's a lot of noise on Fx, and as Hil says regularly, the 100:1 typical margin you get on Fx makes small moves seem highly significant, which is great if it's moving in your direction If you make 1% a day, you double your money after 22 weeks, and multiplies it sixfold over the year. 2% a day doubles your money in 15 weeks and multiplies it 45 times over the year! There are lots of ways of illustrating fantastic returns, but as Hil says, 'you've got to be in it to win it!'

3) Watch out for major announcements. I used to try and trade the announcements, but several burnt fingers later I've realised this is pure gambling! Know when there's news due out, especially non-farm payrolls and interest rate decisions.

4) watch for direction shifts / continuations around lunchtime. Many pairs swing back in the opposite direction around lunchtime, or pause then continue in the same direction. A break below a significant '00 number may retrace, even if it goes to the 80 level, but then may continue down.

4) Watch over many timeframes, get direction from the longer (H1, H4) charts, then look to the 5 & 15 min charts for entries. Plan with the longer timeframes in advance.

5) Always always have a stop and don't forget to remove it if you close for a profit. I nearly forgot about a stop on EUR JPY last week. If I had forgotten, it would have netted me hundreds of pips :-( but it could so easily have gone the other way, and I prefer not to get lady luck involved.

6) Get a few indicators eg stochastics and MACD histograms, have a look at Ruth's Magic arrers TM method.

Hope this isn't teaching you to suck eggs, and it's all the help I can come up with in a short post like this. Hope all goes well.

Well I'm still here and I hope Kayak is right about not disconnecting my broadband.

In the meantime, I came across a monthly currency trading mag in PDF format at the weekend which is available for free download, although you do need to register.

Currency Trader Mag

( TF ) 05/12 06:00
OUTLOOK BoE Inflation Report to show rate cuts still hindered by price risks


- LONDON (Thomson Financial) - The Bank of England will likely paint a downbeat portrait of the economy in its Inflation Report on Wednesday, as rising price pressures accompany a fall in growth, confirming the general consensus that interest rates will be cut only gradually.

A recent raft of surprisingly weak UK economic data has raised speculation that the central bank may cut rates more aggressively, but Thursday's decision to leave them unchanged suggests the BoE remains particularly concerned with inflation.

'While the outlook for growth points to the need for much lower interest rates, the Monetary Policy Committee is likely to continue to deliver the medicine in fairly small doses until inflation pressures eventually start to abate,' said Jonathan Loynes at Capital Economics.

So far, that has meant a rate cut every other month, making a move in June a near certainty.

In compiling the Inflation Report the MPC would have had access to the CPI data -- due for official release on Tuesday and forecast by the market to rise to 2.6 percent -- so the decision to leave rates unchanged indeed suggests the figure may have proved uncomfortably high.

In the previous report in February, the central bank's main forecast was for CPI to breach the 3.0 percent upper threshold and for GDP to dip below 2.0 percent during the year. Analysts believe both of those estimates will be stretched further -- inflation higher and growth lower.

Since the last report, the bad news has largely outdone the good news. A recovery in equity markets and a depreciating pound have been overshadowed by drops in house prices, weaker retail sales, unrelenting credit problems, and increasing pessimism among both business and consumers. Overseas, the economic situation has deteriorated in the euro zone and remains weak in the U.S.

On the prices side of the equation, however, inflation expectations as measured by both the BoE and pollsters GfK have hit series highs. With oil, food and commodity prices breaking new records daily and all surveys showing rising price pressures for companies, the MPC will be unwilling to appear complacent.

'The Inflation Report and subsequent news conference will reject market expectations for 60 basis points of rate cuts from here on, and instead endorse one or at most two cuts of 25 points each,' said Amit Kara at UBS.

He expects Governor Mervyn King's comments to reporters to emphasise that the economy needs to go through a period of sub-trend growth in order to pull back inflation expectations towards their historical averages.

But the worry that hangs over many economic forecasters is that the longer the BoE drags its feet in loosening monetary policy, the more it might have to play catch-up later in the economic cycle, once the inflation 'hump' has passed.

'The slower interest rates fall, the deeper the downturn in the economy is likely to be and the further rates will ultimately have to go to prompt a recovery once inflation concerns have finally eased,' said Loynes at Capital Economics.

He estimates Bank rate will have to drop as far at 3.5 percent next year, beyond the market consensus for a trough of 4.25 percent.

SC, thanks for that, useful and good reminders as I havnt been trading from some time.

Spacie,

After Seymour mentioned trend, I thought I'd paste up a chart for you to demonstrate what he meant. This is a 5-minute cable chart taken a few minutes before the data.



The uppper indicator is a form of macd on the 5-minute timeframe. The lower indicator is the same form of macd, except it's for 15-minutes which has been transposed onto the 5-minute timeframe. Both of those indicators say BUY. In addition, the light blue line under the price bars represents a trailing stop loss for a long position.

The price has pushed on 40 or 50 pips with the news validating the long position. My point is that, even if the news had been dire and cable had reacted down, my personal stance would not have been to have sold the market until the 2 indicators had both turned down and the stop had been breached.

I'm not saying that's the best way or the most profitable way, but it's certainly a safe way.

Remember. There are old traders and there are bold traders. Do you know any traders who are both old and bold?

Hil: First said of the U.S. Mail pilots

"Don't be a show-off. Never be too proud to turn back. There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots."

E. Hamilton Lee, 1949

Well I never new that, DelBoy. Mind, it is more your era I guess.

:o)

Another thing that you may not know: Bill Boeing won the contract to take the U.S. Mail from Seattle to the Alaska Territory in 1919. He couldn't find suitable planes, so he had to start building his own designs. Seems it got out of hand.

Hi everybody, hope you've all wintered well and are trading positively. Got back to(not so sunny) spain just over a week ago. Had an amazing time as a saisonaire, recommend it to anyone regardless of age, sex or creed, just need to be in reasonable condition to handle the long hours and pick a good resort! Had problems with my internet in france and havent looked at a computer screen for 3 mts.(apart from booking airline tickets).

Feel a bit of a virgin sat in front of my screens, having a good first day sofar(except hitting the buy button instead of sell one to take some pips of the table), currently long eur/jpy and short usd/cad( not so sure about this one, stops at breakeven. euros looking sexy atm

Moving anywhere nice hils or just got fed up with the......

Welcome back, Gofe. You sure picked a great winter for the snow.

We're not moving anywhere flash ........ just a little gaff on the estate up the road. It's a bit like Brookside Close really.

My old man's always wanted a room with one of these.



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strange, missing post! I replied to Hils post with the chart saying thanks but its missing !