Socrates
- 10 Jan 2004 10:34
Time now for all us Wiggins watchers to move with the times and start using Planestation, the new company identity. The name Wiggins Group plc has now disappeared from the database at Companies House and Planestation is now listed on the LSE website.
So fellow travellers, forget Wiggins, the name of the game is now PLANESTATION. Lets hope it goes like an express train.
StarFrog
- 02 Dec 2004 14:56
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partridge - i agree with you about the secured overdraft. This from their interims:
"On 9 November 2004, Wiggins Property Developments Ltd and Manston Car Parks Ltd
each signed a new facility agreement with the Bank of Scotland which together
provided a 3 million secured overdraft facility to the Group repayable by 5
February 2005."
It is interesting to note that the overdraft has been arranged with their own bankers and not from some other source. To agree to pay it back in what is a relatively short time span suggests that this is for some immediate project and that the company are confident to repay it. I wonder if it simply is to resurface the carpark? ('cos they're execting a lot of use!)
Interesting to see what happens.
tipton11
- 02 Dec 2004 16:49
- 980 of 1086
Ptg state they require 22m in their 19 month cash flow estimate now apparently property will produce something like 14m...does that mean they need to raise 22m - 14m = 8m plus of course repayment of the 3m, or the full 22m.
Perhaps as usual I've got it all wrong...anyone able to straighten me out?
hlyeo98
- 02 Dec 2004 18:33
- 981 of 1086
The share price is down by 50% today...so much for above if it is doing so well.
jeffmack
- 02 Dec 2004 18:39
- 982 of 1086
Only upside is at least with this management and their cost cutting excercises the share is still worth something. With Iny and his merry men men this would be bust now.
partridge
- 02 Dec 2004 18:42
- 983 of 1086
Starfrog - overdraft probably with own bankers because no-one else would look at it. Suspect they had no influence on term - bank would dictate all terms to them as they appear in decent asset position, but parlous cash position. Need is for risk capital equity funding rather than overdraft, but they have to pay the bills while they try to sort it out. Looks like they have bought a couple of months breathing space, but very high risk. DYOR etc
apple
- 02 Dec 2004 22:36
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WOW 50% down in 1 day OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a drop!
Fundamentalist
- 03 Dec 2004 00:31
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Snakey
Business may look ok going forward (if you look far enough) but this is the umpteenth time they have gone to the city for yet more money - there is only so may times they can be bailed out before they go bust.
How can a company continually making losses, in debt and regularly refinancing be on a sound basis??? Also, for a company in this position to have bought a large share in another loss making business - hmmm
They are in a highly competitive market pricewise and the loss of the MK freight business may well have been the start of the end - i hope not because the concept is correct - the business model isnt
Philcom
- 03 Dec 2004 01:04
- 988 of 1086
Todays 'ill fortune' makes the warrants they issued a few months ago something of a collectors item - if only on eBay !! Its the first time ive been on the receiving end of a 50% drop in one day ...but what chance of a repeat tomorrow?
optomistic
- 03 Dec 2004 10:33
- 989 of 1086
Much less of a drop today, only 7.3%...so far! Glad to have got out of these at 59p, and that cost me money.
jeffmack
- 03 Dec 2004 10:35
- 990 of 1086
Opto
Better start a takeover rumour
hilary
- 03 Dec 2004 10:44
- 991 of 1086
You old cynic, Jeffie.
:o)
optomistic
- 03 Dec 2004 10:44
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If it continues on this track Jeff I think the two of us will be able to take it over! We will ask Socs to join us though, he is fond of PTG. Being serious for a moment, if it is possible about PTG, I find it incredible that the directors have been able to lead this company into such a mess in such a short time and all done under the nose of the Pru, they must be seething!! What next? Sell out to the bondholders (if there are any) wipe out the debts and the shareholders QMOT & TWT style, seems the easy way to get a company for next to nothing and the shareholders haven't got a leg to stand on.
jeffmack
- 03 Dec 2004 10:53
- 993 of 1086
Manston International Airport would make a lovely housing estate
optomistic
- 03 Dec 2004 11:15
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Remember seeing a prog on TV. Where the houses were built around an airstrip and the owners taxied their private aircraft vitually up to their front door. Lot of very wealthy people with some super aircraft, in the US of course.
jeffmack
- 03 Dec 2004 11:16
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John Travolta
optomistic
- 03 Dec 2004 11:20
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Perhaps he will buy PTG.
016622
- 03 Dec 2004 11:31
- 997 of 1086
sold at 6p ...should be able to buy back at 6p soon...
optomistic
- 03 Dec 2004 11:35
- 998 of 1086
Or less!!!