cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
halifax
- 23 Nov 2012 13:57
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cynic they forgot to include UK (illegal payments to MOD officials springs to mind) and the rest of the world.
cynic
- 23 Nov 2012 14:01
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i'm not sure if us gov't or whoever it is, is naive or stupid or hypocritical - or perhaps all 3! ...... if you want to do biz in many regions, "commissions" are payable ..... you don't want to pay? .... fine, we'll give the biz to someone else
cynic
- 23 Nov 2012 14:19
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looks as though we may see some rock n roll from dow this afternoon :-))
cynic
- 23 Nov 2012 15:27
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sort of bugger - got stopped out of dow too early, limit up at 12930 but as i have a long ftse running, so real prob .... shall now watch to see whether or not dow can hold above 12940
Shortie
- 23 Nov 2012 16:34
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http://rt16.it-finance.com/FinSpreadsFlash/showimage.phtml?id=9aab3ec8693f44957ed23dca6126675a945f120e926794c7c01de024a237b6ff&type=png
Wall St Daily with support and resistance, looks like the old bullish channel broken back in July is coming back into play as marked. However note this pullback could be nothing more than a correction as the newer July / August bear channel is still active and supported by moving average crosses.
http://rt16.it-finance.com/FinSpreadsFlash/showimage.phtml?id=329cface8c0544b606f23f01067e60c6c9467a1d2c447134603c198009c2e7e3&type=png
Wall St 2 Hr Chart above shows we're into overbought territory just above resistance, wise call Cynic to see if its going to hold...
jkd
- 23 Nov 2012 16:39
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cynic im long dow . left it late to enter because
a i dont like to trade on a friday usually .. and
b i was worried about the intraday gap down at circa 12871
in fact i still am worried about that so have banked half at small profit and am running balance with tight stop loss
regards
jkd
skinny
- 23 Nov 2012 16:42
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cynic
- 23 Nov 2012 17:11
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12940 is certainly an important marker, so it was always going to be prudent to set a limit a little below ...... dow has limped up to 12950 or so and has now weakened slightly but still holding 12940 ..... unfortunately today is going to be exceptionally quiet and of course it's a short trading day too, so no sensible conclusions can be drawn - but promising nevertheless
Chris Carson
- 23 Nov 2012 18:00
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Closed a Gold long @ 1751.5 + 275 Monday is another day. Got a pint of Tennants Lager with my name on it. Superb day today. Have a good weekend all :O)
dreamcatcher
- 23 Nov 2012 18:05
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Out for a steak and beer as well, have a good one Chris.
cynic
- 23 Nov 2012 18:19
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bought back into dow at 12967 though only lightly ...... ii haven't checked, but 13005 rings a bell as next hurdle, though it may have moved a bit since
jkd
- 23 Nov 2012 18:33
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i can see why you bought at that level cynic . well done.
i thought about it but decided not to. going to play safe and defend what i already hold
as best i can for time being. good luck.
regards
jkd
cynic
- 23 Nov 2012 18:56
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and out again at 13007 ..... IG still quoting cash dow although market closed at 18:00 ..... only a small profit with that last little venture, but not to be scoffed at; at least it will pay for a VERY good meal (for one!) albeit only without wine at the Waterside!
bhunt1910
- 24 Nov 2012 18:29
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Hi All - I quite often watch and lurk in the background and read your commentaries and analysis of what is happening on the FTSE.
I used to trade FTSE - but whilst I had some good gians - I had several small losses - the net effect was that I seemed to make a net loss so stopped spread betting on FTSE.
However - having made some decent profits on AMER - I siphoned some cash out to have another dabble and have been incredibly successful (lucky) over past couple of weeks firstly taking big profits after Obama's win and then guessing right and riding the short down and then generally (not always) guessing it right as it recovered up to last nigts close - when I banked all my profits for a substantial gain. I have more than made up my previous losses and some - but am now scared to do anything in case I loose the lot and am sitting on my hands.
However - my tendency is towards greed - and this is my gambling pot - when its gone - its gone
My inclination is to set a small buy on the FTSE with a trailing stop loss of 50 points (to give it some room) and to hopefully walk away and come back in 6 months time to see the FTSE in the 6000+ range as the economy starts to improve.
I can afford to loose the 50 point SL as it is about 10% of my recent gain.
What do you think - am I mad - or should I just walk away with a smug grin having been very lucky - and I do recognise it was luck and not skill!
cynic
- 25 Nov 2012 09:19
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no more so than having the occasional dabble at the casino
Chris Carson
- 25 Nov 2012 10:45
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Ftse can drop 50 pips in less than 6 seconds, your allowing yourself 6 months? Not exactly stacking the odds in your favour. Better odds, toss a coin and put it all on black or red :O)
HARRYCAT
- 26 Nov 2012 06:41
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Slightly off topic, but as you know I am travelling atm, but decided to take a couple of books with me, one of which is ' Cityboy' by Geraint Anderson. Very amusing but also a little depressing to see how the odds are so heavily stacked against the smaller investor. Awesome insight though as to how The City used to work & maybe still does!
Toya
- 26 Nov 2012 08:39
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Thanks Harrycat - I'll look out for that! Hope you're enjoying your travels
I read somewhere that only 1 in 5 small investors make money out of trading the indices.
Stan
- 26 Nov 2012 08:43
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skinny
- 26 Nov 2012 08:45
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Looks and 'interesting' read :-)