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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Stan - 05 Nov 2018 17:08 - 9920 of 12628

Relax all.. only 144 days before we have that “informed “ referendum.

iturama - 05 Nov 2018 18:32 - 9921 of 12628

If only the remoaners had the courage and perseverance of this little fellow..

https://youtu.be/__3pBpXA8Vs

Clocktower - 06 Nov 2018 08:33 - 9922 of 12628

That bear has got stamina - and not one that I would like to be chasing me when fully grown.

Bit like Boris the Bear after TM`s job - he will never give up.

Cerise Noire Girl - 06 Nov 2018 08:45 - 9923 of 12628

Oooooooh, Dilbert? Did you see that Channel 4 program last night?

Wales wants to remain now!!! :o)

cynic - 06 Nov 2018 08:53 - 9924 of 12628

uk tv used to be admired for its even-handedness, but i'm afraid that is no longer the case, with clear bias on so many issues being reported ..... and no, i did not watch last nioght's prog

Fred1new - 06 Nov 2018 09:30 - 9925 of 12628


Manuel and Dil,


“Calling it "biased" makes it easier to explain away the things you don't understand.”

=--=-==

Take a read.

https://www.channel4.com/news/major-new-brexit-poll-shows-voters-swinging-towards-remain


PS.

I am not biased.

iturama - 06 Nov 2018 09:48 - 9926 of 12628

"when those who refused to vote or answered “don’t know” were removed" That includes you Fred.

They can take as many polls as they like but it isn't going to happen. Remember how the bookies got the result spectacularly wrong last time. Well, they're not going to get a second bite at the cerise noire.

Dil - 06 Nov 2018 09:55 - 9927 of 12628

Hils , yeah just like all the opinion polls said we wanted to remain before the vote.

Didn't see the show but I guess they just asked a few people in Cardiff and they wanted to remain anyway.

Never mind Hils , they'll get over it :-)

Dil - 06 Nov 2018 10:04 - 9928 of 12628

Fred , the question was loaded and was not the one asked during the 2016 vote so like comparing apples and pears.

Load of old tosh , no one I know has changed their mind they just want them to get on with leaving as everyone is sick to death of hearing about it.

Fred1new - 06 Nov 2018 10:17 - 9929 of 12628

Dil,

Perhaps, those you "know" are just humouring you!


Have you thought of applying for the job of a Donald Trump representative in Cwmbran?


But, when I read Manuel's, It's and your posts I realise how unbiased I am.


cynic - 06 Nov 2018 10:33 - 9930 of 12628

and humble and self-effacing no doubt

Fred1new - 06 Nov 2018 11:18 - 9931 of 12628

Dil - 06 Nov 2018 18:28 - 9932 of 12628

You might be Fred but if they had asked the question are you sick and tired of Brexit and should we just leave regardless on the 29th March then there would have been a completely different result.

Bit like asking the Welsh if they think the Welsh Assembly is a waste of money then asking them should we abolish the Welsh Assembly. You would get two different answers to that too.

Never mind Fred , not long to go now.

143 sleeps til Brexit.

Clocktower - 06 Nov 2018 19:14 - 9933 of 12628

Thats why they called a headland Mumbles in Wales, as the Welsh just mumble away when asked if the want to leave or stay.

Fred1new - 08 Nov 2018 13:56 - 9934 of 12628

Interesting to some!

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-article50/british-government-cannot-stop-brexit-case-going-to-ecj-scottish-court-says-idUKKCN1ND1O5?feedType=nl&feedName=uktopnewsearly&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018%20Template:%20LUNCH%20BREAK%20NEWS%202018-11-08&utm_term=NEW:%20UK%20Lunch%20Break


LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s government cannot stop a case seeking to determine whether the country can unilaterally reverse Brexit - due to be considered by Europe’s top court on Nov. 27 - Scotland’s Court of Session ruled on Thursday.

Scottish politicians opposed to Britain leaving the European Union had successfully asked for a ruling to clarify whether Britain could withdraw its notification to leave without permission from the bloc’s other members.

Prime Minister Theresa May’s government, struggling to deliver Brexit, had argued that whether or not Britain could reverse the decision was immaterial, since the government had no intention of doing so. The government had asked for permission to appeal the case at Britain’s Supreme Court.

“The application for permission to appeal to the UK Supreme Court was refused,” a spokesman for the Court of Session said.

Scotland’s highest civil court agreed on Oct. 4 there was a case to be heard before the European Court of Justice.

The anti-Brexit petitioners aim to show that Britain has a legal unilateral option of staying in the world’s biggest trading bloc once it is known what the outcome of Brexit negotiations is.

Reporting by Elisabeth O'Leary; Editing by Michael Holden

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

Dil - 08 Nov 2018 15:08 - 9935 of 12628

Another waste of everyone's time and money by the moaners.

Stan - 08 Nov 2018 15:12 - 9936 of 12628

Only 141 days till the "Informed Referendum" now Dil.

Dil - 08 Nov 2018 15:17 - 9937 of 12628

Or put another way , 20 weeks and 1 day til we leave Stan.

Anyone know what time we actually leave ?

Hope it's about 12 noon , pub opens then.

Happy days.

Stan - 08 Nov 2018 15:20 - 9938 of 12628

Wake up little suzy.. wake up 😁

Fred1new - 09 Nov 2018 09:26 - 9939 of 12628

Well, I never!

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