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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

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for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


bosley - 24 Sep 2005 01:22 - 9952 of 27111

good postings from andy, oily and sd. about time some reality came back to this thread.

driver - 24 Sep 2005 11:33 - 9953 of 27111

As a long term investor in SEO I haven't sold any shares only topped up on the dips (about ten times) and will remain doing so, long term I have always maintained 150p with in two years if I am a few months out that is no problem for me like sd I do not need these funds they can stay where they are for many more years.
If I was a new punter and did not want to lose out on a sudden sp rise then only invest some and average down if it went the other way, long term you will win with SEO in your portfolio.

Bugz - 24 Sep 2005 13:00 - 9954 of 27111

The thread has returned!

SD, oily, andy, there is no difference between what PM1, QC and myself have been posting and yourselves. You all think the sp is going to break the 1.00 mark at some point in the future.

Why not wack a bit of cash in now then and forget about it for a year? Getting in at 18p compared to 30p makes a huge difference in profits. Never risk what you cant afford to lose but buying a bit at this price cant do any harm, especially considering that 90% percent on this board realistically expect the sp to cross the 1.00 level at some point in the net few years.

This is the INVESTORS board, not the trading board, if you are investing,I think these prices are a great time to get in and profit from the SP coming hopefully from a Walmart RNS. Short term time frames are not important. As someone said on the last board, prehaps LOADS of people are waiting for that anouncement before buying. I'd like to get in first.

paulmasterson1 - 24 Sep 2005 14:28 - 9955 of 27111


Hi All,

I will be buying a lot more SEO between now and the Wal-Mart deal, which to me is inevitable, now that Wal-Mart are going to soon tell the world, that they will be the biggest ambassador of sustainable and reduced packaging in the world.

Try buying SEO stock online on the day of the Wal-Mart announcement, you will be very lucky to get anything over the NMS, which currently sits at 100,000, but you most likely won't get 50,000 in one deal, and that would then drop to 25,000. Not very useful when you have a lot of cash, and just want as much SEO stock as you can get your greedy hands on. The stock will cost you a lot more than 20p as soon as the announcement hits the market, so why not buy at the current 18p and save yourself all the hassle, save money, and get as much stock as you want ?

There is very limited downside potential, and huge upside potential, that is always the best time to buy, and thats why I bought again last week, and the week before.

As I said before, the 200 machines will IMVHO be converted in the first year, they may take another 9 months to get them all in place, but nobody claimed they would all be converted in the first 6 weeks or the first 6 months, the statement said 'the first 12 months', and people should remember that, and be more patient for that 12 months.

There will also be a lot of other products getting nice commercial deals over the next 12 months, like Frogpack is right now, cradlewrap might well get the next deal, and there are more poducts to come from Biotec, to be announced over the coming weeks and months, so Greenseal is not the be-all and end-all of Stanelco, rather it is, when combined with Starpol 2000, the current best hope for 1+ near term share price, but I am in for 3-5 years minimum, and so are the majority of longs.

Cheers,
PM


lindos - 24 Sep 2005 15:19 - 9956 of 27111

Hi
I have been buying liquid clothes washing solution in capsule form that you put in the drum of the washing machine.Sealed in what looks like a dissolving starch cover, is this an aquosol product? Does any body know?
Thankyou
L

paulmasterson1 - 24 Sep 2005 15:36 - 9957 of 27111

Lindos Hi,

Have a look here ....

http://www.aquasol-ltd.com/examples%20of%20products1.htm

In case your wondering as I was, what the product in the bottom-right picture is, it is Shering Plough sheep dip !

And here on my website ....

http://www.stanelco.devisland.net/Aquasol.htm

Cheers,
PM



paulmasterson1 - 24 Sep 2005 15:52 - 9958 of 27111


Hi All,

Packaging Digest now have the Natureworks story, put on there on friday night.

http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=589&topicId=6974&docId=l:312837853&start=2

A Webcrawler search produces 64 pages containing Stanelco and Natureworks ....

http://msxml.webcrawler.com/info.wbcrwl/search/web/stanelco%2BNatureWorks/1/-/1/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/407/top

Cheers,
PM

Oilywag - 24 Sep 2005 16:05 - 9959 of 27111

PM1

Do you really have to say that the WalMart deal is "inevitable"?

All of us on this board who are already invested and those who are waiting to invest, hope that the announcement will come during or following the gathering between 17-19th October.

But WalMart has its own problems to solve, some with its unionised workers who are not too happy to see the work they do instore, moved out to packaging companies where they have no firm representation.

This is not a deliberate deramp as I want to share price hit 1 asap, but please do not present the case as a fait accompli.

If it does happen, I shall acknowledge that your optimism was luckily well founded.

The oily one

paulmasterson1 - 24 Sep 2005 16:17 - 9960 of 27111

Oily Hi,

IMVHO the announcement will come before the show, then Wal-Mart can say 'look what we just/recently signed' .... it could be as late as the day before ....

I can't see how Wal-Mart could declare at the time of the show, that they were going to use Greenseal and Starpol, if it hadn't already been announced to the market by them and Stanelco, they are both listed companies, and have rules to follow, but another big reason for them not announcing on the day, is that it will make them look like they are only making the agreement in order to stuff the Wal-MArt bashers, but they will want it to SHOW that they are committed to the tecvhnology for it's benefits.

I suggest you have a chat with Tony Ruane, and/or Howard White about this ....

Cheers,
PM

NielsJensen - 24 Sep 2005 16:18 - 9961 of 27111

How much does a ton of Starpol cost a customer?

shman - 24 Sep 2005 16:19 - 9962 of 27111

PM1 - Stegrego on the other side has posted this just now..hope he does't mind me sharing it to all here on this BB

" Apologies if this has been mentioned b4 but i must of missed the RNS or something!

In this weeks Moneyweek there is a piece on Stanelco quoting from Tom Bulford of Red Hot Penny Shares.

Wont type it all but says ' Asda is already using Stanelco products and now CARGILL, the US food giant, has also been enlisted as a customer.'

First time ive seen Cargill mentioned or perhaps i have just missed it??

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NielsJensen - 24 Sep 2005 16:25 - 9963 of 27111

Ahh, I found the price of Starpol, it's $5-$8 per kilo. Say $8000 pr. ton, that's sales of up to 120 million USD next 12 months.

insiderinside - 24 Sep 2005 16:52 - 9964 of 27111

shman - Stegrego - do not try ramping that - read the EGM statement - Stanelco is a customer of Cargill for the ingredients of Biotec products - are you getting desperate - the price will fall more - and more.


30 August 2005
Stanelco PLC (Stanelco or the Company)
EGM Statement

Stanelco PLC is pleased to announce that all the resolutions at the Companys EGM held at 10.00a.m. this morning were duly passed. The acquisition of Biotec Holdings GmbH (Biotec) will therefore be completed shortly.
As a result, the previously announced conditional sale of a 50% interest in Biotec to SP Metal S.A. (SP Metal) will also shortly become effective and the consideration received by Stanelco will be used to fund 50% of the Biotec acquisition. Under the joint venture more of Biotecs considerable Intellectual Property portfolio will be commercialised. Biotec have received a conditional commitment from SP Metal for an annual purchase of approximately 10,000 metric tonnes of Biotecs biodegradable plastic pellet worth in excess of 20m per year.
Stanelco and SP Metal had initially agreed to increase Biotecs production capacity of biodegradable pellets to at least 12,000 metric tonnes within nine months via a joint investment programme of up to 4.5m. However due to further recent improvements in both the production procedures and the ability to process the materials, a capacity of 24,000 tonnes for an investment of 2m is now envisaged within the same period.
In an earlier announcement today, NatureWorks LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Cargill Inc has agreed the supply of the major component of Biotecs Starpol materials which will make Biotecs products price competitive with a number of materials currently used in the target market segments.


Stegrego - 24 Sep'05 - 16:07 - 52011 of 52012
Apologies if this has been mentioned b4 but i must of missed the RNS or something!
In this weeks Moneyweek there is a piece on Stanelco quoting from Tom Bulford of Red Hot Penny Shares.
Wont type it all but says ' Asda is already using Stanelco products and now CARGILL, the US food giant, has also been enlisted as a customer.'
First time ive seen Cargill mentioned or perhaps i have just missed it??

shman - 24 Sep 2005 16:19 - 9962 of 9963
PM1 - Stegrego on the other side has posted this just now..hope he does't mind me sharing it to all here on this BB
" Apologies if this has been mentioned b4 but i must of missed the RNS or something!
In this weeks Moneyweek there is a piece on Stanelco quoting from Tom Bulford of Red Hot Penny Shares.
Wont type it all but says ' Asda is already using Stanelco products and now CARGILL, the US food giant, has also been enlisted as a customer.'
First time ive seen Cargill mentioned or perhaps i have just missed it??

lindos - 24 Sep 2005 17:17 - 9965 of 27111

thanks paul
i will keep buying them and tell my family and friends
Lindos

zscrooge - 24 Sep 2005 20:25 - 9966 of 27111

LOL. Lots of aliases here. People talking and ramping to themselves. LOL.

stockdog - 24 Sep 2005 20:41 - 9967 of 27111

aliases or silly asses?

bosley - 24 Sep 2005 20:56 - 9968 of 27111

same thing

antofelli - 24 Sep 2005 21:44 - 9969 of 27111

Thanks Paul for yours accurate researches. Ignore all the bashers

NielsJensen - 24 Sep 2005 21:46 - 9970 of 27111

Paranoia? I'm really Sham/ii.
Just making fun of Paul; thanks for falling for it. :)

Sorry Paul. ;)

Even deeper Bos?

andysmith - 24 Sep 2005 22:56 - 9971 of 27111

Thank Goodness, reasoned debate returns and I don't get slated.
Still believe long-term and as stated I am still in but reduced my holding taking some profits. The total story is unfolding really well but I am keen that potential new investors don't get carried away with hype in the same way that a "walmart greenseal deal" took the sp to 30p only for many people when it didn't materialise to have lost a lot of money either with CFD's, sold at loss deliberately or triggered stop-losses. I stated a few weeks ago that I believe that Starpol will be the making of SEO and still believe that but lets not assume that it will be announced in October in a mega-bucks deal for SEO. Greenseal had the same potential but believe me it is not being realised and is unlikely to ever reach the thousands of machines that was hoped for when the sp rose 400%.

With Greenseal unlikely to deliver the mega-bucks profit predicted, Starpol has to do it for SEO, there has never been a better time for the challenge of sustainable packaging to really enter the market and SEO have the chance if the retailers want to grasp the nettle. If Howard White can deliver this with a commercially viable and profitable product stream then SEO has a big future.

My caution is only about short-term sp, the forecasts are in public domain and are being reduced as Greenseal is not being commercialised to the extent and speed the market wanted and IMO the sp seems to follow that over the last few months.

Can SEO rise above 20p on speculation of a Walmart deal for Starpol or can it retreat to 12p with no news updates on Greenseal or Starpol deals?
Eventually investor sentiment turns to the need for profits and the market will decide the sp until we have a confirmed ground-breaking deal.
SEO have to deliver this time or the sp will be hit-hard but if they do deliver the 50p party at Donny will be sooner than we think.

What a share this is!!!


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