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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic - 12 Nov 2018 16:08 - 9956 of 12628

who would you nominate from the labour party as being a person of high principles and moral standing, who would actually lay his party political dogma to one side?

clearly you wouldn't nominate anyone from the tory party, so i'm not sure from where you would get your x-party alliance

Clocktower - 12 Nov 2018 16:10 - 9957 of 12628

The only mistake over Brexit is not getting out as quickly as possible - just get out and get on with it. No need for discussion - one party walks and gets on with their lives with new partners - just like any other divorcee if one party has the sense to walk and just say good bye - no hard feelings. Buck the trend and make a new friend.

cynic - 12 Nov 2018 16:11 - 9958 of 12628

even when there are children?
and who pays the maintenance etc?

Clocktower - 12 Nov 2018 16:31 - 9959 of 12628

After 40 years of marriage all kids will have long flown the nest and the why should the British pay any maintenance? Let them and all the hangers on support themselves. Get a grip and just leave them out to hang and dry. Not our responsibility. Just like Trump has had the balls to tell the EU countries to pay their way when it comes to defense. They are all a bunch of leaches.

Claret Dragon - 12 Nov 2018 16:33 - 9960 of 12628

Edging closer to exit date. Get feeling it wont happen as most MPs just don't want it to go ahead.

Dil - 12 Nov 2018 18:16 - 9961 of 12628

Suddenly realised we are going to leave have you Fred ?

A cross party whatever of a few MPs to deny the democratic will of the people , no thanks Fred.

Both main parties had Brexit as part of their manifesto at the last election , Libs had remain and got nowhere.

They need the 39 billion off us and a deal will be reached and then it'll be up to Parltament to either vote it through or let us leave with no vote.

Mrs May can't call a snap GE because it would trigger a leadership challenge.

Maybe if you and people like you had bothered to go out and vote Fred then Brexit may never have happened.

Fred1new - 13 Nov 2018 08:42 - 9962 of 12628

Stan - 13 Nov 2018 09:17 - 9963 of 12628

How appropriate Fred 😀

Dil - 13 Nov 2018 10:26 - 9964 of 12628

Don't tell me Stan , you didn't know what you were voting for at the last General Election so we should re run that too before we leave.

Stick to football , at least you know ..... on second thoughts forget that too :-)

Fred1new - 13 Nov 2018 10:36 - 9965 of 12628

Dil.

What exactly did you hope for, when you voted for "Brexit" at the time of the referendum?

Clocktower - 13 Nov 2018 11:16 - 9966 of 12628

Fred and Stan, ask yourselves:

Have the Channel Island suffered through not being fully signed up to the EU - do they have any problems with shipping goods either way?

Do the boarder checks work?
Are there any delays?
Do the Financial Service sector in the Islands not thrive because they are not fully signed up to the EU?

Dil - 13 Nov 2018 15:21 - 9967 of 12628

Free trade , end of freedom of movement and no direct rule from Brussels.

What were you hoping for by not voting ?

Fred1new - 13 Nov 2018 15:39 - 9968 of 12628

.

Fred1new - 13 Nov 2018 15:39 - 9969 of 12628

And what have you got?

And what do you expect to get?

Fred1new - 13 Nov 2018 15:39 - 9970 of 12628

.

cynic - 13 Nov 2018 15:45 - 9971 of 12628

seemingly we should expect dementia inspired posts in triplicate :-)

Fred1new - 13 Nov 2018 15:53 - 9972 of 12628

I am surprised you noticed.

Ask the carer to sedate you again.

cynic - 13 Nov 2018 15:54 - 9973 of 12628

i did, but i have to wait another 5 hours ..... such is the plight of NHS :-)

Fred1new - 13 Nov 2018 16:05 - 9974 of 12628

I know what Dil means.


Boris Johnson says Brexit deal will make Britain an EU colony
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FILE PHOTO: Boris Johnson addresses delegates at a Conservative Home fringe meeting on the third day of the Conservative Party Conference in Birmingham, October 2, 2018. REUTERS/Toby Melville
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s Prime Minister Theresa May and the European Union are stage managing a Brexit deal that will doom the United Kingdom to the status of a colony, former British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said on Tuesday.

“No one is fooled by this theatre. Delay after staged managed delay,” Johnson wrote on Twitter. “A deal will be reached and it will mean surrender by the UK.

“We will be doomed to remain in the customs union and under Brussels’ regulatory control. People did not vote for colony status,” he said. “The future can be bright if only we change course now.”

Reporting by Guy Faulconbridge; editing by Michael Holden

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

cynic - 13 Nov 2018 16:12 - 9975 of 12628

so tell us what corbyn's deal would result in - assuming he can work out which horse he is backing?
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