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PM1

Do you really have to say that the WalMart deal is "inevitable"?

All of us on this board who are already invested and those who are waiting to invest, hope that the announcement will come during or following the gathering between 17-19th October.

But WalMart has its own problems to solve, some with its unionised workers who are not too happy to see the work they do instore, moved out to packaging companies where they have no firm representation.

This is not a deliberate deramp as I want to share price hit 1 asap, but please do not present the case as a fait accompli.

If it does happen, I shall acknowledge that your optimism was luckily well founded.

The oily one

Oily Hi,

IMVHO the announcement will come before the show, then Wal-Mart can say 'look what we just/recently signed' .... it could be as late as the day before ....

I can't see how Wal-Mart could declare at the time of the show, that they were going to use Greenseal and Starpol, if it hadn't already been announced to the market by them and Stanelco, they are both listed companies, and have rules to follow, but another big reason for them not announcing on the day, is that it will make them look like they are only making the agreement in order to stuff the Wal-MArt bashers, but they will want it to SHOW that they are committed to the tecvhnology for it's benefits.

I suggest you have a chat with Tony Ruane, and/or Howard White about this ....

Cheers,
PM

How much does a ton of Starpol cost a customer?

PM1 - Stegrego on the other side has posted this just now..hope he does't mind me sharing it to all here on this BB

" Apologies if this has been mentioned b4 but i must of missed the RNS or something!

In this weeks Moneyweek there is a piece on Stanelco quoting from Tom Bulford of Red Hot Penny Shares.

Wont type it all but says ' Asda is already using Stanelco products and now CARGILL, the US food giant, has also been enlisted as a customer.'

First time ive seen Cargill mentioned or perhaps i have just missed it??

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Ahh, I found the price of Starpol, it's $5-$8 per kilo. Say $8000 pr. ton, that's sales of up to 120 million USD next 12 months.

shman - Stegrego - do not try ramping that - read the EGM statement - Stanelco is a customer of Cargill for the ingredients of Biotec products - are you getting desperate - the price will fall more - and more.


30 August 2005
Stanelco PLC (Stanelco or the Company)
EGM Statement

Stanelco PLC is pleased to announce that all the resolutions at the Companys EGM held at 10.00a.m. this morning were duly passed. The acquisition of Biotec Holdings GmbH (Biotec) will therefore be completed shortly.
As a result, the previously announced conditional sale of a 50% interest in Biotec to SP Metal S.A. (SP Metal) will also shortly become effective and the consideration received by Stanelco will be used to fund 50% of the Biotec acquisition. Under the joint venture more of Biotecs considerable Intellectual Property portfolio will be commercialised. Biotec have received a conditional commitment from SP Metal for an annual purchase of approximately 10,000 metric tonnes of Biotecs biodegradable plastic pellet worth in excess of 20m per year.
Stanelco and SP Metal had initially agreed to increase Biotecs production capacity of biodegradable pellets to at least 12,000 metric tonnes within nine months via a joint investment programme of up to 4.5m. However due to further recent improvements in both the production procedures and the ability to process the materials, a capacity of 24,000 tonnes for an investment of 2m is now envisaged within the same period.
In an earlier announcement today, NatureWorks LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Cargill Inc has agreed the supply of the major component of Biotecs Starpol materials which will make Biotecs products price competitive with a number of materials currently used in the target market segments.


Stegrego - 24 Sep'05 - 16:07 - 52011 of 52012
Apologies if this has been mentioned b4 but i must of missed the RNS or something!
In this weeks Moneyweek there is a piece on Stanelco quoting from Tom Bulford of Red Hot Penny Shares.
Wont type it all but says ' Asda is already using Stanelco products and now CARGILL, the US food giant, has also been enlisted as a customer.'
First time ive seen Cargill mentioned or perhaps i have just missed it??

shman - 24 Sep 2005 16:19 - 9962 of 9963
PM1 - Stegrego on the other side has posted this just now..hope he does't mind me sharing it to all here on this BB
" Apologies if this has been mentioned b4 but i must of missed the RNS or something!
In this weeks Moneyweek there is a piece on Stanelco quoting from Tom Bulford of Red Hot Penny Shares.
Wont type it all but says ' Asda is already using Stanelco products and now CARGILL, the US food giant, has also been enlisted as a customer.'
First time ive seen Cargill mentioned or perhaps i have just missed it??

thanks paul
i will keep buying them and tell my family and friends
Lindos

LOL. Lots of aliases here. People talking and ramping to themselves. LOL.

aliases or silly asses?

same thing

Thanks Paul for yours accurate researches. Ignore all the bashers

Paranoia? I'm really Sham/ii.
Just making fun of Paul; thanks for falling for it. :)

Sorry Paul. ;)

Even deeper Bos?

Thank Goodness, reasoned debate returns and I don't get slated.
Still believe long-term and as stated I am still in but reduced my holding taking some profits. The total story is unfolding really well but I am keen that potential new investors don't get carried away with hype in the same way that a "walmart greenseal deal" took the sp to 30p only for many people when it didn't materialise to have lost a lot of money either with CFD's, sold at loss deliberately or triggered stop-losses. I stated a few weeks ago that I believe that Starpol will be the making of SEO and still believe that but lets not assume that it will be announced in October in a mega-bucks deal for SEO. Greenseal had the same potential but believe me it is not being realised and is unlikely to ever reach the thousands of machines that was hoped for when the sp rose 400%.

With Greenseal unlikely to deliver the mega-bucks profit predicted, Starpol has to do it for SEO, there has never been a better time for the challenge of sustainable packaging to really enter the market and SEO have the chance if the retailers want to grasp the nettle. If Howard White can deliver this with a commercially viable and profitable product stream then SEO has a big future.

My caution is only about short-term sp, the forecasts are in public domain and are being reduced as Greenseal is not being commercialised to the extent and speed the market wanted and IMO the sp seems to follow that over the last few months.

Can SEO rise above 20p on speculation of a Walmart deal for Starpol or can it retreat to 12p with no news updates on Greenseal or Starpol deals?
Eventually investor sentiment turns to the need for profits and the market will decide the sp until we have a confirmed ground-breaking deal.
SEO have to deliver this time or the sp will be hit-hard but if they do deliver the 50p party at Donny will be sooner than we think.

What a share this is!!!

AndyS,

Sounds like you're stating that Greenseal is dead in the water! I find that a surprising revelation. I presume it is just your gut feel and has no other factual basis.

Deals have been done and true to form, the naive and over optimistic have become disillusioned with the rate of take-up of Greenseal. I believe this is the nature of such things, takes a fair time to establish roots and then rapid growth.

If it is to be believed that other supermarkets are waiting for their turn then the second quarter of 2006 should be very interesting.

This share and associated BB's has been over-inflated by a number of PI's hoping to realise their dreams over night, well that is just it...dreams, and now some have woken and smelt the coffee!!

Garyble,

They might be dreams but these dreams will probably come true but not just yet! Like you said, the Greenseal effect will take time. Alot on here assumes that within the first 3 months the conversion process will have started off at a blistering pace. It's a case of suck and see!

Kong

Hi All,

Anyone who has ever worked on a project, knows that nothing is ever rushed, and well planned projects take twice as lon as expected, and badly planned projects always take three times longer than expected !

I don't think Stanelco planning has a problem, rather that suppliers have their own planning and logistical problems, of which machines to convert, how to get that machine free long enough to do the conversion, etc.

Several suppliers won't have any spare machines, as a way of rotating converions, so they will be looking for maybe an annual service period for a machine as a time to convert it, and that could be months away.

There are several factors that make it difficult for suppliers, and they are still all watching each other, waiting for the other to convert first, but you can bet your portfolio that Tony Ruane is on thier backs, giving them a very hard time about it.

I suggest people chill out and forget the quick profit brigade, and short term price fluctuations, because those who stay 3 or more years here, will do very very well.

Cheers,
PM

Think we all agree that Stanelco is as good a medium to long term investment as any one of us is ever likely to have in our laps - the upside potential is monumental. So whatever happens in the short term is merely the yo-yo-ing of the graph until the day dawns when it finally reaches its destiny! Howzat for Sunday morning poetry?

Markusantonius

I could describe what you have written above in rhyming slang, but would never call it poetry!

LOLling about

The oily one

Ta, Oily one - there a few words that rythme though, I think? :o)

Markusantonius

rythme?

The oily one