This sums up much of my thinking - I hold a few and swing trade a few and even trade intraday sometimes ......

I think there is a lot of slack that management can cut out of the costs and would also anticipate sector consolidation ..... good value currently and have been holding their own in a falling market. Lot of US interest.

ains


Edited by Dominic White
(Filed: 08/02/2003)


Texting makes MmO2 sexy but it's also risky

More and more Britons are discovering the joys of textual intercourse. In the month of December, we fired off more than 50m mobile messages a day, and next Friday (that's Valentine's Day, folks, in case you'd forgotten) we'll send considerably more than that.



It emerged this week that the chief beneficiary of this craze is MmO2 . BT's former mobile phone division revealed that it gets a higher proportion of revenues from texting than any of the other three operators.

Revenue from messaging grew at its fastest rate ever in the last quarter, up 19pc, and data services as a proportion of MmO2 's revenue rose to 17.7pc from 15.6pc.

More good news was the rise in MmO2 's average revenues per customer. ARPUs, as nerdy analysts like to dub them, grew by 5pc to 243 in the UK and by 9pc in Germany to 212.

MmO2 now has 19.1m subscribers and in Britain it may be the smallest player, with 11.9m users, but it is growing faster than its rivals - testament to the success of its rebranding from BT Cellnet.

Only 114,000 of its 503,000 new UK subscribers were higher-spending contract customers, but MmO2 claims its pre-pay customers have started spending more than before.

Customer growth in Germany, which continues to be dominated by T-Mobile and Vodafone, is less impressive and the MmO2 share price ascribes little or no value to this part of the business.

That seems unfair, given the fact that the group has attracted higher-spending customers and has made a decent fist of turning the operation around. An eventual sale or merger is almost as inevitable as a disposal of the Dutch unit, which is losing customers.

MmO2 's larger rival Vodafone is trading on a free cashflow yield of 6pc, while at 49p this week, MmO2 's equivalent valuation remains negative. It might not have Vodafone's scale or profitability but there is room for upside. A risky buy.

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goodfella,

Welcome to AM!

One of the benefits of belonging to this site is it's moderation, unlike other so called popular sites!

Behaviour tolerated over there is not here, so sensible discussion rather than gratuitous abuse, to the benefit of the BB.

I'm sure you will find this moderation provides for a better bb for all.

Andy.

Andy

Thanks for your welcome and outlines of accepted practise which is indeed to be applauded.

One would assume you will not tolerate posting by multiple aliases, which was responsible for a great deal of the problems on other sites and led to certain individuals achieving the notorious distinction of being banned from two different BB in succession.

goodfella,

No I wouldn't tolerate it, and whilst you refer to one situation over there, I can refer to others! I would say there is one person there posting under more than 10 different logon id's, and having conversations with himself ramping up shares. What annoys me is ADVFN have to know about it, because someone else told them.

To my knowledge that poster is not here yet, but will be, when this BB is a bit livelier, you can bet on that.

I do hope that am will not allow this to happen, and I had hoped, and still do, that a proper registration procedure will be put in place to prevent it.

Let's leave the dross where it's allowed, over the road!

Andy.

fyi in a quiet market


Funeral conducted via mobile phone


February 10, 2003 04:00

Funeral-goers stranded by snow took part in a funeral in Norfolk from their home in Scotland via a mobile phone.

The family of 90-year-old Ruby Hunter had gathered at Gorleston crematorium to pay their last respects on Monday.

But Mrs Hunter's son, Ian, and daughter-in-law, Mary, were stranded by heavy snow 560 miles away in Scotland.

Rather than let them miss the service, the Rev Tony Ward agreed to rest a mobile phone on the lectern and transmit the hymns and readings to Paisley, Renfrewshire.

Mrs Hunter's daughter, Ruby Butler, 63, said her daughter Sharon Hunter, 41, who lives in Lowestoft, had come up with the idea.

"Sharon rang the number just before we went into the service and then she handed it to Mr Ward, who put it on the lectern.

"He actually announced it and said 'Ian and Mary are joining us today from Scotland' and held up the phone.

"I think the whole family thought it was a nice gesture for the sake of my brother. My mother would have thought it was marvellous."

Ian Hunter, 58, said the link made the traumatic day easier for him. The retired Rolls-Royce worker and his wife listened to the service using two phone handsets at home.

The couple and two cousins had already bought their train tickets to travel to the service, but their plans were wrecked by driving snow and gale-force winds.

"It hurt, of course, that we couldn't be there, but there was no way round it. The weather wasn't too bad here, but I was advised by relatives not to travel," he said.

"We could hear everything. It broke up once or twice, but it was very much appreciated. We thought we were going to miss it altogether so it was a relief we were able to listen to the service, even though we were not able to be there in person."

Mr Ward, who is rector of St Andrew's Church, Gorleston, said he was pleased to put the technology to such good use.

"A lot of people grumble about mobile phones, and I've even had some go off during funeral services. It was good to find a positive use for them, and bring the family together," he said.

"We also read out a poem that Ruby's great-grandson, Stephen, had sent over the internet from Malaga, where he lives with his mum.

"I know some of my colleagues might worry that it could get out of hand with dozens of phones, but I thought 'If it helps the family, why not?'"

Wow, should throw a fast ball into their revenue curve shouldnt it?

Young people would be interested in improving their English and maths skills though mobile phone games, according to a new survey by the Learning and Skills Development Agency (LSDA).

The survey looked at the mobile phone habits of young adults aged 16-24, and possible future developments in mobile phone use that would appeal to them, and which could be used to facilitate learning. The survey found that the idea of games to improve basic skills would be of interest. The survey also found that over half of those questioned felt that using a mobile phone had made it easier to communicate with others.

Jill Attewell, the LSDAs m-learning manager, commented: Making learning attractive and fun for young adults is important. Their lifestyle choices need to be taken into account.

3GSM World Congress - Coming soon
When and Where? 17 - 21 Feb, Cannes, France
http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?195176
Keynote speakers at 3GSM World Congress include: Moon Soo Pyo, President SK Telecom;
Keiji Tachikawa, President & CEO, NTT DoCoMo; Peter Erskine, CEO, O2; Jean-Franis Pontal, CEO, Orange; Katsumi Ihara, President, SonyEricsson.

O2 GROWS ONLINE SALES LEAD IN THE UK

Released: 11 February 2003

O2 is now the clear UK market leader in online sales via its
www.o2.co.uk
site
following news that it has exceeded half a million customers. In the last year
O2 UK has more than doubled its online subscriber base, of which almost half are
high-value contract customers. In addition,
www.o2.co.uk
is the company's most
successful channel for value-added services such as ring-tones, paid-for alerts
and premium rate services.

This follows the announcement last week that O2 UK has recorded strong third
quarter growth in revenue and customer numbers and has become the number one
operator in the UK for text messaging, with a record-breaking half a billion
text messages sent by its customers in December 2002 alone.

Dave McGlade, chief executive officer, O2 UK, said: 'Our online operation is
particularly important because it enables us to build stronger direct
relationships with our customers, get valuable market feedback and drive
incremental sales of new services such as ring-tones and paid-for alerts. These
customers have consistently recorded some of the highest ARPU levels within the
mmO2 group of companies. We will continue to use our online portal to target
high value customers supported by the O2 brand and our competitive propositions
for voice and mobile data services.'

O2's online portal achieved 245 million WAP page impressions in December, more
than three times that of its nearest UK competitor, as well as 51 million web
page impressions for the three months ended 31 December 2002.

Much of this success can be attributed to the increasingly powerful O2 brand. UK
spontaneous brand awareness amongst high value customers has grown from 14% in
May 2002 to 61% in December.


mmO2

mmO2 has 100% ownership of mobile network operators in four countries - the UK,
Germany, the Netherlands and Ireland - as well as a leading mobile internet
portal business. All of these businesses are branded as O2. Additionally, the
company has operations on the Isle of Man (Manx Telecom).

mmO2 was the first company in the world to launch and rollout a commercial GPRS
(or 2.5G) network and has secured third generation mobile telephony ('3G')
licences in the UK, Ireland, the Netherlands, and Germany.

mmO2 has approximately 19.1 million customers and some 13,500 employees, with
revenues for the year ended 31 March 2002 of 4.276 billion. Data represented
17.7% of total service revenues in the quarter ending 31 December 2002.


O2 UK

O2 (UK) Ltd has over 11.95 million customers (end Dec 2002), of which
33% are contract and the remainder pre-pay. The proportion of service revenues
generated by data usage in the last quarter is 17.4%. The number of SMS messages
handled by O2 UK over the year was 4.92 billion.

O2 UK's GSM network, including GPRS capability, covers over 99% of the
population and approximately 90% of the UK by land area, and comprises more than
9,000 base stations.

O2 UK was the first mobile network in the world to have launched and
rolled-out commercial GPRS services. Work is underway to develop its future 3G
network capability.

The company has more than 200 O2 retail stores located across the UK,
plus a 40% shareholding in The Link Stores Limited.

International roaming agreements with 326 networks allow our customers
to receive and make calls in 140 countries. Additionally, O2 UK customers are
now able to roam with GPRS in 24 countries.

(AFX-Focus) 2003-02-11 10:26 GMT: mmO2's UK online customers rise above 500,000
LONDON (AFX) - MmO2 PLC said O2 has exceeded half a million customers via its www.o2.co.uk site, adding that in the last year O2 UK has more than doubled its online subscriber base, of which almost half are high-value contract customers.
Dave McGlade, chief executive officer, O2 UK, said: "We will continue to use our online portal to target high value customers supported by the O2 brand and our competitive propositions for voice and mobile data services."

O2's online portal achieved 245 mln WAP page impressions in December as well as 51 mln web page impressions for the three months ended Dec 31 2002.

newsdesk@afxnews.com

Marginally outperforming market and sector at this time - plus 2.65%


ains


O2 claims online lead

London, February 11 2003, (netimperative)



by Chris Lake

O2 today revealed that it has doubled its online subscriber base in the past year, having attracted more than 250,000 new customers through its website.


The company, which claims to be the UK market leader in online sales, claims to have an online subscriber base in excess of 500,000, with nearly half classed as high-value contract customers.

It also said the website has also been the most successful channel for the sale of value-added services, such as ringtones and sms alerts and other premium rate services. Its online portal achieved almost a quarter of a billion WAP page impressions in the month of December, and 51m web page impressions during the last calendar quarter of 2002.

Part of this success can be attributed to O2's efforts in achieving brand awareness over the past year - the company said UK spontaneous brand awareness amongst high value customers has grown from 14% in May 2002 to 61% in December.

22 January: O2 puts 3G back until second half of 2004

11 Feb 2003 11:44 GMT

mm02 sees German 3G launch by Q4

LONDON, Feb 11 (Reuters) - UK-based mobile phone company Mm02 said on Tuesday it might delay its launch of high-speed, third-generation (3G) mobile phone services by a few months until around November.
Chief Executive Peter Erskine said at a press conference that the company, which had previously said it planned a German 3G launch in the late summer, was now set to bring the high-tech, multimedia phones to Germany by "late Autumn".

Mm02, the smallest of Germany's four mobile phone operators, has already delayed its 3G launch in Britain to the second half of 2004 after harsher-than-expected regulatory price cuts forced the company to rein in investment.

Mm02 has adopted a "go-slow" 3G investment strategy in Germany, which has already seen two rivals put costly 3G start-up operations on ice. But the British group plans to meet regulatory requirements and ensure that its 3G network reaches 25 percent of the population by the end of this year.

Although mm02's unit, which is branded 02 Germany, has beaten market forecasts by reaching positive EBITDA (earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation) six months ahead of guidance, it remains loss-making.

Some analysts still believe mm02 might sell the business, which has only around eight percent of a market that is 80-percent controlled by Deutsche Telekom DTEGn.DE and Vodafone Group Plc VOD.L , possibly merging it with Dutch-owned rival E-Plus KPN.AS .

Mm02 insisted last week that an extended 3G German network-sharing deal with Deutsche Telekom's T-Mobile [TMOG.UL] did not commit the group to a specific strategy in Germany. But analysts interpreted the move as an indication that any prompt sale looked less likely and mm02's shares fell.

Meanwhile, the company is in talks to sell its underperforming Dutch business, 02 Netherlands, as well as examining other options. Its other subsidiaries include a wholly-owned British and Irish operation.

Be more German, mmO2 tells Oftel
By Dominic White (Filed: 12/02/2003) Telegraph - edited


Peter Erskine, chief executive of mmO2, yesterday attacked Britain's telecoms watchdog Oftel, saying Germany's regulator was far more reasonable towards mobile phone operators.

Mr Erskine criticised Oftel's recent imposition of cost cuts on calls between networks and said that because of its regulatory environment a start-up mobile company would find it more attractive to invest in Germany than the UK.



The Scotsman


O2 doubles UK online subscriber base


Mobile phone group mmO2 has doubled its UK online subscriber base to more than half a million over the last year.

The former BT subsidiary, which launched its services online about 18 months ago, revealed nearly half of its internet sales were long-term contracts, with the remaining customers opting for pre-pay tariffs. Dave McGlade, chief executive of O2s UK arm, said: "Our online operation is particularly important because it enables us to build stronger direct relationships and drive incremental sales of new services such as ring-tones and paid-for alerts."

SMS marketing gets better response than direct mail

Enpocket has published its third Insight report The response performance of SMS advertising. The study, which is based on independent ICM telephone survey work with over 5,200 consumers who had seen some of more than 200 campaigns researched by Enpocket between Oct 2001 and Jan 2003, revealed that the average campaign delivers 15% response (of any type), which is more than twice the average other industry reports have given for direct mail (sources: Gartner, DMIS)

The report also noted that the best performing response mechanisms are Reply to SMS (8% average), Visit a web site (6%), Visit a store (4%), Buy the advertised product (4%).

The research shows that 94% of messages are read, which helps explain the high levels of response and brand impact that previous Enpocket Insight reports have unveiled. 23% of messages are shown or forwarded to a friend, which indicates that the total impact of activity is significantly higher than even these figures suggest.

For the best performing campaigns, the study reveals outstanding results as follows: 46% response (of any type), 27% Reply to a message, 19% Visit a web site, 15% Visit a store. Most impressively, the best campaigns have resulted in 17% Buying the advertised product, which suggests that marketers who tailor communications most effectively to this new personal medium can generate exceptional ROI.

Commenting on the findings, Jonathon Linner, CEO of Enpocket, said: With these results, and the findings of the earlier branding report, SMS advertising has firmly proved that it is a more effective marketing channel than other media. The personal nature of the medium and high attention it commands, coupled with its unparalleled targeting and response capabilities, means marketers can deliver actionable campaigns of greater relevance and impact to their target audiences. Add to this the facts that production and delivery costs are low and that 1 in 4 messages are shown or forwarded to friends, and there is tremendous opportunity for marketers to improve total ROI through use of the medium.

Thanks for the excellent postings.

passes the time in a quiet market :-)) ...... market is being massaged one way one day and the other the next

down day today unless US picks up - nas futures don 3 and dow down 11 at this time - sector off 1.1%


ains

Totally agree......

This will help


Wednesday, 12 February, 2003, 12:21 GMT
Phone users become picture savvy BBC


No trendy mobile phone should be without a camera, network operators say

Sales of mobile camera phones are surging worldwide, outpacing sales of personal digital assistants like Palms and Pocket PCs.
But of the 18 million camera phones sold in 2002, more than 70% were snapped up in Japan, and another 13% in South Korea.

CAMERA PHONE SALES (2002, in millions)
N.America 0.2

W.Europe 1.32

Asia Pacific 15.85

C.&S. America 0.03

E.Europe 0.26

Other 0.22

source: Strategy Analytics

Trailing far behind is Western Europe, where multimedia messaging services that allow the sending of pictures were rolled out only towards the end of 2002.

Experts at Strategy Analytics, who compiled the figures, predict that the sales boom will continue, but warn that a limited choice of phones on offer and ill-designed software are holding back growth.

The killer application?

Mobile phone operators around the world have invested heavily in faster mobile phone services.


Sharp's GX10 camera phone has an unusually large LCD display
However, they are still searching for so-called "killer applications" that guarantee healthy returns on these investments.

The Japanese example suggests that sending pictures from a mobile phone to friends and family - either to their phone or their e-mail inbox - could be just such a money spinner.

In the two countries with the world's most advanced mobile phone networks - Japan and Korea - nearly 16 million embedded-camera phones were sold last year alone.

Vodafone's Japanese subsidiary J-Phone was the world's leading camera phone operator in 2002, with more than six million phones on its books, although Strategy Analytics predicts that this year it will be overtaken by the country's largest mobile phone firm, NTT Docomo.

Europe, meanwhile, is playing catch-up, with 1.1 million phones sold during the last three months of 2002 alone, taking the total to 1.32 million.

In the Americas, in contrast, subscribers bought just 230,000 camera phones.

The temptation of multimedia messaging comes at a price for network operators.

Strategy Analytics estimates that each camera phone sold in Western Europe is subsidised by up to $500.

As a result, camera phones last year outsold personal digital assistants by five million units.

Camera phones and 'wicked people'

And there is the danger of a social backlash against camera phones.


The screen of Nokia's new 7250 camera phone is too small, says Strategy Analytics
James Bond proved in his film how easy it is to snatch a picture with a camera phone, and thousands are following suit.

On a multitude of web sites, irresponsible happy camera phone owners are showing off indiscreet pictures taken without the subject's knowledge.

Japanese camera phone maker Yatane is selling phones that make a loud shutter noise to warn people that they have had their picture taken.

Saudi Arabia has taken the more radical approach and banned the sale of camera phones outright because of their potential "misuse by wicked people".

The issues of privacy, decency - and secrecy - are being discussed in other countries as well.

Singapore, China, Ireland, Scotland, Japan, and Dubai are among the countries where authorities or companies have banned the use of camera phones in government buildings, public swimming pools, fitness centres and schools.

Not user-friendly

But the biggest hurdle for the take-up of camera phones is the same that plagued European mobile phone users in the 1980s and is still holding back services like text messaging in the United States: Many multimedia messages can not be sent from one phone network to another.

Poor software, warns Strategy Analytics, is another big problem.

Most camera phones have a navigation that is not very user friendly.

"Device vendors and carriers must take note that they risk slowing future camera phone growth if they do not heed the lessons of WAP."

Wap bombed with the public, after failing to deliver their promise of providing internet services on the move.

And there is the issue of choice. There are not many camera phones to chose from, although Japan recently has seen a boom with 25 models now available.

Britain is a nation of text maniacs, says Government

More than 16 billion text messages were sent last year, new Government figures show.

The nation sent an average of over 45 million messages a day, the Department of Trade and Industry says.

Meanwhile, an increasing number of Britain's 45 million mobile phone users sent 57 million messages on Valentine's Day.

This year the DTI predicts the number of romantic texts to rise to 68 million.

The popularity of texting will, the DTI suggests, come at the cost of the more traditional Valentine Card of which an estimated 13 million are expected to be sent.

E-commerce Minister Stephen Timms said: "It's great to see mobile technologies being embraced so wholeheartedly by consumers in the UK.

"Texting is an instant, easy way to get in touch, and as these statistics for Valentine's Day show, not just for trivial communications.

"And with the advent of new technology, such as picture messaging and 3G, this time next year we won't just be expressing ourselves amorously through text."


Story filed: 12:21 Wednesday 12th February 2003

Volumes on oom are very low this morning with only 7 million traded


London, Feb. 12 (Bloomberg Data) -- Vodafone Group Plc (VOD LN) was raised to ``add'' from ``hold'' by analyst Jamie Mariani at ABN Amro.