bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
robinhood
- 25 Oct 2006 11:32
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rpaco: this issue already discussed at length on this board. Fact is that it will be biodegradable, is competitively priced and is green (regardless what councils may charge -and they may well come under pressure in the future to make concessions on landfill charges if biodegradable waste is involved)
hewittalan6
- 25 Oct 2006 13:25
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garyble
- 25 Oct 2006 13:37
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BH1910,
The institutions who have signed up to zillions of shares cannot trade them yet!
bhunt1910
- 25 Oct 2006 13:41
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Maybe not officially - but surely if they really wanted to they would just borrow thaam and short it
Or are you saying that it would be a condition of the sale ??
garyble
- 25 Oct 2006 13:49
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BH1910,
Not sure of the intricacies, but I believe you're indicating that they could short it now at say 1.2p but surely that would be a bit of a gamble, especially if we're expecting the sp to rise once the EGM has rubber stamped the proposals.
oblomov
- 25 Oct 2006 13:52
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Alan, 'Reading the prospectus (again) I'm going with plan A.
It clearly states the fundraising will be used to ensure the successfull completion of at least the first 2 manufacturing plants'
Not intending to stalk you, but! My whole point was that although we can be confident the fundraising will in part be used for 2 manufacturing plants, we do not know that they are the manufacturing plants mentioned in the LOI's and the contracts which were in the process of being finalised.
My opinion is that the deals to which the LOI's related fell through, and that SEO have adopted a new plan in relation to the MMP's which may or may not have customers.
.
potatohead
- 25 Oct 2006 13:53
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Todays Daily Express
Drug discovery firm EiRx Therapeutics was steady at 0.28 amid speculation it was set to receive two milestone payments.
hewittalan6
- 25 Oct 2006 14:06
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No I can accept your point, Oblo.
That would be a valid argument. It would still remain though, that SEO were skinning the same cat, just differently. I cannot see though how even the most incompetent management in the world (and SEO are on the list of nominees) could decide to blow half of its cash on building plants that no-one else wants, to produce a product nobody is yet buying!! I can imagine those who put up the 12 million going for that.
It would make more sense if the argument about LOI being dead if we said that they were dead to avoid the SPhere problem and SEO had found a watertihgt way of doing the same thing, by SEO financing the plant. As I do not know what the LOI said, or the exact details of the problem between SPhere and SEO, I am guessing as much as anyone, but I still think the LOI are alive and well really.
Alan
bhunt1910
- 25 Oct 2006 14:07
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Garyble - I think that is my point.
If they sell now and short it - they can buy back at 0.8p through the rights issue and make a guaranteed 50% profit.
If they sell (short) now and the rights issue fails - they would be able to buy on the open market at less than 0.8p as the sp collapsed making (say) 100% profit.
BUT - they all seem to be holding - so they must know something and therefore be expecting the sp to rise above 1.2p thus making more than 50%.
Does that make sense?
greekman
- 25 Oct 2006 14:22
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Alan,
Good find re the ASDA compost own waste issue. This will show other supermarkets that ASDA look like leading the way in an attempt for zero waste.
The race is hotting up. As the article is in the public domain, I will post it on a competitors site. Giving credit to the initial poster obviously.
Tonyrelaxes
- 25 Oct 2006 15:14
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I can see a compost problem in the making - too much of he stuff! LOL
bristlelad
- 25 Oct 2006 18:04
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tony you can NEVER have TOO much of COMPOST ?? it like money you cannot have too much?OR HAVE YOU THAT WHY YOU,VE LENT SOME TO POOR OL, SEO/
garyble
- 25 Oct 2006 18:15
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BH1910,
Of the three options you've presented there's only the one that is indicative on an insti having a positive perspective and that is to Hold and plough new money into their offer.
The only other option would be to short it with the belief that it is doomed to failure.
bhunt1910
- 25 Oct 2006 19:54
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I think we are violently agreeing??/
Worrier
- 25 Oct 2006 21:06
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Can someone please confirm to me if the SEO directors are taking up their full entitlements or have made any additional investment since the open offer was announced? I might be inclined to follow them
Worried
Tonyrelaxes
- 25 Oct 2006 21:20
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Worrier
The only two directors who held shares (as opposed to options or in a family trust) have declares maximum take-up according to the Prospectus. They are Lovegrove and ANR (no paperwork here to supplement my my poor memory). I think it totalled about 0.6% of the Issued Capital.
No big deal.
Worrier
- 25 Oct 2006 21:21
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Thanks Tony, No record of Ian Balchin as far as anyone aware?
Mad Pad
- 25 Oct 2006 21:23
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Worrier ,with what they hopefully know that would be insider trading so in my opinion it would be unlikely that any directors would have bought recently ,also I have seen no reports of any selling.
Worrier
- 25 Oct 2006 21:33
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That would make sense MP. I asked the question about directors and why they weren't buying a month ago when the price was at a "bargain" 4p or so.....they would have known then what was being touted around for the placing and at what price. Should have followed my instincts then, sold and repurchased
Worried
Tonyrelaxes
- 25 Oct 2006 21:33
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The ANOther may well have been Balchin. I just cannot remember and am currently about 4,000 miles from my papers and don''t propose returning home to look itup as I have a dinner date at Oblobov (!) tomorrow evening.
It is in the Prospectus - traceable through SEO website (again I don't intend looking it up as it is well past midnight here and I am about to crash out ;-))
I agree with MadPad - no directors dealings reported for months - possibly years.
There is just a chance that director(s) are among those who agreed to take up shares in the original 'firm' placing. Not reportable as yet as not completed - that will be after the EGM on Monday week. I'll be home for that firework party!!.