Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Clarification of law on "the war on terror" is even more murky. Not only is it not a country, it's not even an organisation. It's a noun.

Israel cannot possibly risk the blockade falling until they are comfortable that the extremist countries such as Iran will not use Gaza as a weapons store and launchpad for ever more powerful explosives.

If Israel needs to sink blockade busting ships then 'believe me this': they will.

i think i'll absent (absinthe might be better) myself from posting here until all this verbosity and other garbage blows though

NM,

It is appalling to me, that some people choose martyrdom and murder, in order to further their causes.

But when, in spite of the Internet, attempts are made to suppress different views, many feel they have to resort to such methods.

Also, what many who support Israel over recent times, are unable to accept is that criticism of the state, is not out of blinkered "hatred".

The arrogance and responses shown by some posters, etc, is hopefully not representative of all members of the Israeli state.

In the past, I have criticised the actions of my children, and likewise they have criticise some of mine. The important thing is that, we don't think we hate each other.

Although, sometimes we agree to disagree non-violently.

The actions on both sides in this recent conflict shows immaturity.

PS,

I agree with Hay's comment.

Hays

Unless Israel negotiate with more concessions such as dismantling illegal settlements, they are going to become more isolated. Now that Hamas have seen the power of their new strategy you can expect more of the same. It doesn't help Israel that they have a very right wing Prime Minister. It doesn't help that he was a commander of a commando unit. Force seems to suit his style of government.

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Cynic,

Give me you address and I will send you some old copies of the Beano.

Clubman3509 - 01 Jun 2010 14:53 - 2377 of 2402
Ban those silly little hats they wear on the back of their heads

Tell our father the Pope.

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how can the blockade be illegal ?

Israelis are blockading Israeli waters

the rest is a propoganda pipe dream
probably on hash

Uncensored video from on-board journalists, with IDF film of the same incidents from different angles edited in.

*Warning* Parts of the video are very gory - they show close up stabbings and clubbings.

mnamreh: It was addressed to you. Fred doesn't see my posts because he has placed me on the Squelchy Step. Alongside Rabbi Ausie.

MN.

Apologies.

(Wouldn't dare to strain the old fellow.)

I wrote, previously, that I was dyslexic

Trying hard..

Have a good day!


All my faults

The Turkish media reported that the Israeli troops who attacked Mavi Marmara, one of the Freedom Flotilla ships, possessed a hit list containing the names of activists who should be killed and eliminated.

They said on Monday that the Israeli government already prepared this list in order to liquidate certain participants in the convoy.

One of the Israeli soldiers during the raid on the Turkish cruise ship Marmara dropped this hit list and the media outlets in Turkey published it later yesterday.

For their part, officials at the Turkish port of Antalya categorically denied what Israel claimed about finding weapons in the possession of the passengers aboard the ships.

They affirmed that the ships and passengers were scanned and searched carefully before allowing them to sail for Gaza.

Haystack - No weapons?

So what are the soldiers in the al-jazeera video above being stabbed with? And clubbed with? Is it mime?

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The waters along Gaza are Gaza territorial waters. Israel is currently administering them.

Not only is the action piracy, it is an act of war against Turkey under whos flag the ship was sailing.

Check this story from one of the Passengers,

Passengers recount mid-sea horror
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/2010/06/20106193546785656.html

Haystack

I'm glad it's so cut and dried for you - perhaps you could arrange a lecture tour of international legal organisations, institutes and universities, to present the legal arguments that your incisive and expert mind has analysed prior to coming to your conclusion.

They really do need your expert pontification because they don't see it nearly as clearly as you do.

It is just Israel and its supporters that don't see it that clealy. A number of news agencies are now casting doubt on the Israeli account of events.

Haystack, whilst personally I have no intention of voicing an opinion until ALL the facts are available, your ramblings on this thread are much akiin to the long time squelched dick head Fred. Whilst I realise events of this type inevitably polarise views, you really are totally one dimensional in your ability to view the bigger picture. I recall a quote (albeit not very well) which goes along the lines of - keep quiet rather than confirm you're an idiot.

Haystack - that's rubbish.

The question hinges on whether Gaza is a sovereign state, part of Israel, or an occupied territory.

There are (apparently) sound legal arguments for the blockade for each of these cases. Which one do you want the arguments for? I'll set them up so you can knock them down.

The problem is that until Gaza's status can be properly recognised, identified and pigeonholed nobody knows which set of legal precedents and law applies.

The same should also be said of the supporters of the Israeli action. I am afraid I regard your comments as just an attempt to stop criticism of Israel. Iyt is your choice to not read my comments. I regard the actions of Israel as appaling and should be condemned with some actual response such as a trade boycott.