Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hilary good post.
but you have forgot to say that the likes of cable @ clegg have fcuked up the torys from doing what is needed .

family allowance should be cut to two children .
not to save money but to save the planet
girls are having babies as a way income .

for once, i pretty much agree with something you write
i'm not sure that 2 children per family is sufficient to maintain a population, but in principle, i certainly agree that child allowance (relatively small beer) should have limits

however, are not many state benefits orientated to "family units", for if so, you now start getting into much trickier territory

my view is not to save money but the population is going out of control
and the planet and wild life is being affected .

for population control, there's nothing like a good, old-fashioned, non-partisan pandemic such as bubonic plague or even spanish flu .... a poor substitute is perhaps a really large scale war

Cheery post of the week go's to cynic.

i thought it very constructive :-)

Hilarious,

“ But, if you want to talk about past predictions, how about your prediction that a coalition government would be great for the country as no game-changing laws would ever get passed?”

I have no recollection of saying a coalition would be great for the UK. and doubt that I wrote it, but I am willing to be corrected. I did suggest that a coalition was likely well before it occurred.

As far as a coalition government is concerned, I understand the necessity for such when a country has an external enemy, but see some of the difficulties, when the problems are of an internal economic dissention and “morality” within a “society”.

Do I believe that coalition governments can work? Yes, but with difficulties.

As far the present coalition is concerned, I think that its formation a necessary evil with both tory and Lib/Lab leaders clambering for power within the atmosphere previously created by the media and the obvious political polarisation created during the run up to that election a solution.

I thought the resulting combination was of chalk and cheese, but at least it protected the UK from the ravages of the far right reactionaries.

As far as U-turns are concerned, it appears to me that it shows the immaturity of the leadership who rush out policies without due care and attention to detail. (The action of little girls and boys rushing to paper, or out into the world, with seemingly bright ideas, but later having to ask their mummies and daddies, to pay the bills when the practice of those ideas end in repeated disasters.)

Your analogy of “kitchen sink” economics with the economics of a “society” although having features in common do not hold in practice I am too old to try to explain why.

(Consider floating a company, or bailing out a viable company strapped for cash.)

Or, perhaps, ask the waiter.

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Tinker,

I agree and consider Neo-darwinism the solution.

Also, think there should be a purge of those families with more than two children, as long as I chose the individuals to be slaughtered.

Also, consider involuntary euthanasia a possible solution.

Again, can I pick the clients.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02yksnv This really is becoming one of the best descriptions that I have heard to describe such a condition.. but only worth listening for people with an open mind.

Well good morning to you all, I had a heart attack last Wednesday evening around 6.45 p.m. and have been in a critical care unit for 5 days in Southport and got transferred to Broad Green Heart and Chest Hospital in Liverpool On Monday, 4 stents put in so I am an extremely lucky lady, I got told after the procedure that I was so close to having a quadrouple bypass and that only one in three survive such an attack. They are not sure for now the full extent of damage it has done to the heart but return in 4 months for another scan. I for one cannot criticise the NHS, the nursing staff, consultants, Doctors etc., they were absolutely marvellous and I have a life back thanks to them. When one says one never knows the minute - how true. A great shock but I knew something was major and rang 999. Trust you are all well.

So sorry to hear that 3M.

Certainly a shock.

I wish you a speedy recovery.

Get well soon.

I hope you are on the way back to rude health.

Was the heart attack as you would have imagined? Did you have any history of such problems? The answers to those questions and others could be useful to some on here.

Thanks GF certainly was a shock, in fact I think I am still in shock - so many changes to be made with my life style and plenty of rest for some time. I am always on the go so that one is going to be hard but it has to be done. Hope you had a good holiday.

Isn't it good to have a NHS available to all UK citizens, when they are in need.

3 monkies very sorry to hear about your heart attack, it's extremely important for you to rest (not always easy for a female) with as little stress as possible, hopefully you have family or friends to help you. Good luck and take care.
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Haystack I have never had a heart attack before but I certainly knew there was something radically wrong, I had just eaten my evening meal and got pain under my left boob but right inside my chest like cramp, the pain remained and there was a different pain across my chest above the boob, up into the neck, travelling down the left arm into my hand - I tried to lay down but I was having difficulty breathing and got very clammy if that is how one spells it across my forehead - still clutching everywhere I made it to the phone. Ambulance man said I was too good a colour to be having a heart attack - my neighbour who is a chest consultant arrived on seeing the ambulance and I was shaking , crying sweating, and said to him I am having a heart attack - not once but 3 times did I say it, an ECG was done and he looked at it with the paramedic and my neighbour was trying to calm me down and told me I had to go to Hospital. Apparantly I had an angina attack as I was told 13 years ago - it was never followed up and is looking like I had a small heart attack then but it was not detected. I think there are a lot of questions to be answered somewhere but hey ho probably not get to the bottom of that one but Chris my neighbour detected there had been something in the past by the ECG . He came to see me the following morning at 7.40 a.m. to see how I was and asked me why I hadn't told them I had had a heart attack before - I hadn't to my knowledge. Beware everyone - any chest pain whatsoever, phone 999 your life could be saved or any further damage eliminated. Very scarey stuff. Living on ones own sometimes is not easy but at least I did the correct thing. The so called angina attack 13 years ago was just a burning sensation in the chest and left me looking very grey and shaky and recovered in about 1 hour. My GP sent me to see a heart man at the local hospital and I came home with a 48 hr. monitor and then given a spray for under the tongue, never to be used as it did not occur again. Apparantly some people don't get any pain whatsoever - everyone is different. They couldn't believe I hadn't been sick. Going to rest now, the ordeal is over I hope, the stent procedure really took it out of me as one is awake and it took 2 hours. Very clever what they can do these days Now got to go on a Cardiac Rehabilitation Course in a couple of weeks.

3 m hope you get a speedy recover and best wishes

A flash from the past:





“A cartoon by
The Independent's Dave Brown has been named Political Cartoon of the Year 2010.
Published in this newspaper the day after the Coalition government was formed in May, the cartoon shows David Cameron and Nick Clegg in a coal mine with the Liberal Democrat leader as the canary. Speaking at an awards ceremony organised by The Political Cartoon Society in London on Monday night, Dave Brown said the work reflected his belief "that Clegg was there as nothing more than personal protection for Cameron, an early warning of poisonous air ahead, and, of course, ultimately expendable."

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It would seem the canary had Avian Flu.

Thank you all for your good wishes.

3 monkies, just read your post, I'm so sorry to hear about that and glad you are back on the mend. It's a reminder to us all that good health and good friends are everything.