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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Stan - 19 Sep 2008 08:42 - 2721 of 21973

I felt the same and did the same as you think now a couple of years back and have never regretted that decision.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 08:42 - 2722 of 21973

I accept not being able to get prices in these mkts for the first couple of mins but not for a system to crash for most of the day.

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 08:44 - 2723 of 21973

I figure most of these wild moves are just more market manipulation. The same manipulation market makers have always used to move prices around when they want to encourage buyers or sellers. As usual the private investor finds it impossible to take part in these moves, either because of slow systems, lack of transparency or access. Maybe the FSA should look at leveling the playing field next.

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

Stan - 19 Sep 2008 08:44 - 2724 of 21973

Not if you give it time DFBPBJ and persevere.

Stan - 19 Sep 2008 08:47 - 2725 of 21973

Strawbs,
I view this as a time to get any "profitable" positions sold. and nothing else as I believe we are heading further down.

spitfire43 - 19 Sep 2008 08:50 - 2726 of 21973

Same problems on TDW trading platform, unable to trade live but it is accepting limit orders.

Stan - 19 Sep 2008 08:51 - 2727 of 21973

Thats how I got out S43.

ED: Sorry DFBPBJ I should have said in my post to you that I managed to get out via a limit Order.. i'm using them for a lot of my trades these days.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 09:00 - 2728 of 21973

Unfortunately you can't even get into your account on selftrade and the phones are down so we're doomed. Sorry to carry on, won't mention it again.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 09:01 - 2729 of 21973

... nice weather .. for this time of year ..

2517GEORGE - 19 Sep 2008 09:49 - 2730 of 21973

dealerdeal---------I can't access my selftrade A/c either bloody annoying, my halifax A/c is ok though.
2517

HARRYCAT - 19 Sep 2008 09:50 - 2731 of 21973

I agree, dealerdear. Selftrade have been poor this last week. Login page down & phones on permanent hold. Am going to set limit sells on my stocks over the weekend & see if they trigger early next week.
Am already a Barclays customer, so might see if they are a better bet.

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 09:51 - 2732 of 21973

Does anyone know if the short selling rules affect market makers? It might explain the large rise in the financials. Huge demand with market makers only able to match sells with available stock, rather than short selling and covering later.

Just a thought.

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

Greyhound - 19 Sep 2008 10:11 - 2733 of 21973

I've always stuck with a traditional broker with phone contact. It costs more but every few years with a week like this it pays for itself in one trade as you get your deal done.

stroreysj - 19 Sep 2008 10:24 - 2734 of 21973

greyhound do you have to pay a management fee for the service or is it just i higher fee for the trade

Greyhound - 19 Sep 2008 10:44 - 2735 of 21973

i pay a management fee for my isa portfolio then plus the usual fees. I don't pay a fee for my non-isa holdings (at least I think I don't) but fees to hold in nominee account. I learnt my lesson late 80's/90's because with this volatility online trades get pulled first and you can't deal the volume you want. Something to bear in mind for the future.

HARRYCAT - 19 Sep 2008 11:14 - 2736 of 21973

That arguement works both ways though, Greyhound. Having an online broker works for most of the year & only costs 12.50 per trade regardless of the quantity. High street brokers charge a %age commission, which is unacceptable for the frequent trader. Yes, we are suffering at the moment, but over a period of time our charges work out less than using the high street.
Selftrade now working, albeit grindingly slow!

stroreysj - 19 Sep 2008 11:27 - 2737 of 21973

is anyone considering shorting the FTSE ? . It seems to me at its high but with the option expiry its a hard call. I think I will have small punt with a tightstop and lump on when it closezs for monday

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 11:32 - 2738 of 21973

Can you still short the FTSE? Surely it contains financials, so how does that work?

Strawbs.

stroreysj - 19 Sep 2008 11:35 - 2739 of 21973

sell on IG . I don't think it applies to spread betting

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 11:37 - 2740 of 21973

Oh. OK. Maybe the indexes are done differently.

Strawbs.
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