Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I see that this site has the potential Labour majority dropping from 90 to 84 in the last few days as an average of polls.

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

Guardian

July 15, 2013

The latest Guardian / ICM poll for July 2013 shows a substantive move back to the Conservatives, wiping out a 7-point lead for Labour last month. The main two parties stand on 36% apiece, with Labour unmoved as the Tories climbed +7 to their best showing since March 2012.

The Tory gains pretty much translate into UKIP losses. As the gleam of their local council election showing rubs off, UKIP suffer as they return to the political shadows with a 5-point fall this month on top of a 6-point fall in the previous month. Nigel Farage’s hope must be that he can somehow persuade the electorate that UKIP is more than just an opportunity to send a message to the main parties in second order elections; but as some minor parties of the past can attest, being seen as a legitimate and strong alternative in General Election’s is a different ball game to breakthroughs at council or European level.

According to popular wisdom on the left — and even among some in the Conservative party — this ought to have been a tough week for the government. On Monday, the new £26,000 cap on benefits came into effect and with it a new principle: that no one on welfare should receive more than the average working family. Such a move, it was said, would expose the Conservatives to what is supposed to be their weak point: that they are the ‘nasty party’ who care about money, not people.

Yet something remarkable has happened. Iain Duncan Smith’s welfare cap is turning out to be not just the boldest but the most popular reform undertaken by this government. Rather than being punished in the opinion polls, the Tories appear to have been rewarded: the latest ICM survey puts them on a level pegging with Labour. A YouGov poll finds that 79 per cent favour the latest welfare reform. Amongst Labour supporters it is 71 per cent — in spite of Ed Miliband’s making a great stand against it.

lol ffs haystack there is shite all happening of major importance on the politics front and all the unemployed and single mothers are out enjoying the sun when the pollsters ring hence the Tory apparent popularity.

Have they claimed responsibility for the nice weather yet ?

Hays,

Still haven't any answers.

Ask headquarters what you swallow and regurgitate.

Going to watch the cricket.

Should be a hum dinger.

this gov going to war on the disabled not even hitler was this evil
Cameron should hold is head in shame but he does not no what shame is
he is a evil vile man who would of fitted in well with hitler

actually the disabled, mentally deficient (note well MrT) and similar, along with the jews, romanies etc etc were all hitler's extermination list

GF,

Keep you hands on your pockets and sun tan on.

Tinker,

Cameron and Smith don't know what shame is.

But it is interesting the Hunt the "escapee" from Leveson is following the Murdoch (Muddydock) skill of smear and incompetence and enabling further decay of the NHS.

I am not sure which cabinet gang member is the most brazen liar.

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Still waiting for answers from Hays.

In a (probably vain) attempt to change the subject :-)

Tanker - discuss!

Australia announces Papua New Guinea asylum deal

People arriving by boat to seek asylum will no longer be resettled in Australia but will go to Papua New Guinea, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has announced.

I am very ashamed that my self and my family voted for this EVIL and VILE government of LIARS and crooks

the only good thing that has come out of this scum gov is it shown the voters
what a load of liars and evil shits the LIBS are they will be wiped out at the next election CABLE CLEGG JUST DOWN AND OUT SCUM

T----Surely if they are crooks then the police would be called in to investigate and interview the persons concerned, just like Tony Blair was during the cash for honours scandal in 2006.
2517

2517 no the police can not be called in crooks can mean a lot of things
they have robbed pensioners disabled via lies they got elected on lies
what have this gov done on tax fiddles NOTHING ONLY TALK
immigration is out of control the nhs is buckling due to immigrants
who have paid fcuk all in to the system
a gov of liars filling their own pockets buying shares via family
members .

Update: Labour lead at 5

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 18th July - Con 33%, Lab 38%, LD 11%, UKIP 11%;

2517,

I think Cameron and crew are prepared to attempt brazen out anything which appears "dubious".

As the con party is so terrified of UKIP and what it will do to them at the next election they wish to postpone the next election (fixed date) as long as possible and introduce populist policies in an attempt to placate their right wing and some of the public.

The problem they have is when the general public sees the effects of those policies. (12-15 months away.)

Also, I would guess that the last thing the labour party want at the moment is an "election", until they resolve said "relationships" with the unions.

I have a "feeling" that Miliband is shrewder than many credit. The problem he has is regrouping before the next election and appearing credible.

Also, I think, that would be the position of the Lib/dems, who are living in hope and don't want an election until the can separate themselves from the coalition and not be seen as an extension of the left wing tory party.

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The number of enquiries which are ending in the long grass, even to somebody as cynical as myself, seems amazing.

I would hope, but doubt it will happen for a long time is introduction of proportional representation, reduction of no of MP and reduction in the number in House of Lords, making them elected and appointed, but making, that body, advisory only. (In one way the latter already applies.)
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And Hays you still haven't answered the questions.

They are simple, why the avoidance?

Didn't you say you had a finger in Yougov once upon a time.

Is that their problem with their data analysis.

8-)

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Increasingly' the public are liking the government's policies. By the election, the deficit will be cut more, the economy will be better, the popular benefits cap will be working well. Labour will still be in confusion. The Conservatives should walk it.

What about the DEBT?????????????????????

I hope the walk is long and the pier short.