goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 21:29
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Updated 10 mins ago
'We're ready to go': Britain and US could launch missile strikes on Syria as early as FRIDAY as Assad's foreign minister warns it will defend itself using 'all means available'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2402597/Syria-crisis-Britain-US-launch-missile-strikes-early-FRIDAY.html#ixzz2dCfg00pJ
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2402597/Syria-crisis-Britain-US-launch-missile-strikes-early-FRIDAY.html
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 21:32
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Labours view from the above = Labour leader Ed Miliband said: 'When I saw the Prime Minister this afternoon, I said to him that we the Labour Party would consider supporting international action, but only on the basis that it was legal, that it was specifically limited to deterring the future use of chemical weapons, and that any actions contemplated had clear and achievable goals. And we'll be scrutinising any action that is contemplated on that basis.'
Call to arms: Tony Blair today irged David Cameron to back military intervention in Syria to avoid a 'nightmare scenario' for the West in the Middle East
Call to arms: Tony Blair today irged David Cameron to back military intervention in Syria to avoid a 'nightmare scenario' for the West in the Middle East
Mr Miliband added: 'The use of chemical weapons on innocent civilians is abhorrent and cannot be ignored.'
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cynic
- 27 Aug 2013 21:32
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i think i concur with you dc, though it's a bit scary as to how things will actually pan out .... for sure it will not be just a nice and tidy little operation with assad agreeing to step down or anything sensible like that
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 21:37
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They will not know whats hit them that's the sad thing. Just hope he does not use more of the chemical weapons on innocent people. Never have worked out China's or Russia's thinking ? This was always going to happen . Get on with it I say.
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 21:38
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They will not know whats hit them that's the sad thing. Just hope he does not use more of the chemical weapons on innocent people. Never have worked out China's or Russia's thinking ? This was always going to happen . Get on with it I say.
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 21:46
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Sadly its going to make the markets in for a bumpy ride, along with future Greece problems and again America reaching its debt ceiling in Sept. Button down the hatches.
doodlebug4
- 27 Aug 2013 21:46
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Totally different scenario in WW2 cynic - Hitler was actually threatening to invade our country. I think countries which engage in civil war should be left to get on with it. Why should our government get involved in what goes on in Syria? The vast majority of people in this country are now fed-up with all the billions we send to to other countries in foreign aid and these people are not the least bit interested in the news bulletins on various channels about what is happening in Syria. It's their country, different mentality, different laws - why should we interfere? At the end of the day if we try to impose our will and our code of behaviour by bombing the ruling government into submission is it going to make their country a better place to live in, I don't think so.
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 21:57
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doodlebug4
- 27 Aug 2013 22:00
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Utter, utter madness if our government goes ahead with these proposed missile strikes. Here we go again, USA trying to impose its will on another country by force and our stupid politicians getting led into the mess like a bunch of silly sheep.
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 22:03
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If the US, GB and who ever get the backing and go ahead from the UN and its legal, then so be it.
cynic
- 27 Aug 2013 22:03
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like i said db, "none of our biz" was the argument that the appeasers used too .... nothing changed until it was way way too late
however, as i wrote earlier, i don't know what i would recommend, but like dc, i'll keep my fingers x-ed that those in power both here and elsewhere and who will have far more info than we shall ever have, will make a sensible decision .... whether that decision will prove to be right in the long run, will not be apparent for some time
Haystack
- 27 Aug 2013 22:08
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Hitler wasn't threatening to invade England. He invaded Poland and we had a treaty with them. We had to go to war. Hitler didn't want to invade us. He hoped we would stay out of it.
doodlebug4
- 27 Aug 2013 22:09
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dreamcatcher, I agree it is very sad, but it is their country and hard as it is I think we need to stand back and let them sort it out. We don't actually see a lot of atrocities committed in other countries, i.e. Zimbabwe, simply because news channels are banned from filming.
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 22:12
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These nutters/dictators as to say, have got to be shown the world will not stand for criminal activity.
Again thank god for America and the UK.
No I'M not religious.
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 22:15
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In their country until nuclear, perhaps chemical war heads start being launched in the future. You are entitled to your views d4.
doodlebug4
- 27 Aug 2013 22:15
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Haystack, where the h--- do you think Hitler was going to go next after invading Poland and France? I don't think Churchill agreed with your views - "we will fight them on the beaches ------" etc.!
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 22:25
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Interesting read - Assad's arsenal: 100,000 missiles and rockets
Assad has moved his chemical weapons stockpiles form the desert in eastern Syria to more protected areas on Syria's coast that are ruled by his Alawite sect. These stockpiles, among the largest in the world (some 1,000 tons of chemical warfare agents) are under the complete control of Assad's regime.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4421668,00.html
Haystack
- 27 Aug 2013 22:26
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d4
What you have said makes no sense. We were already at war with Germany for 9 months when that speech was made. Churchill had only taken over the previous month and was trying to rally the nation after the escape from Dunkirk a few days earlier. Hitler had shown no signs of wanting to invade England.
dreamcatcher
- 27 Aug 2013 22:39
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Sky news - The Prime Minister has said any action in Syria would be to deter the future use of chemical weapons as he blamed a suspected poison gas attack on the Assad regime.
David Cameron said the scenes of death and suffering in Damascus were "appalling" and "we cannot let that stand".
Britain's Armed Forces are drawing up plans for a potential military intervention in response to the alleged chemical attack in the Syrian capital, which is believed to have killed hundreds of civilians.
Mr Cameron said any intervention had to be legal and proportionate and would not be about the Syrian conflict itself but preventing the use of chemical weapons by any regime.
And he stressed no decisions about UK involvement have been made.
He said: "Let me stress to people, this is not about getting involved in a Middle Eastern war or changing our stance in Syria, or going further into that conflict. It's about chemical weapons. Their use is wrong and the world should not stand idly by."
Fred1new
- 27 Aug 2013 23:03
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I think anything that Blair and his look at like Cameron state should be taken with a good dose of salt.
If they were put in the same bag, it would be difficult to guess which rat would get out first.
Tirade over.
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Interesting threat from Assad henchmen that, if America and its poodle Britain attack Syria then Syria's first response would be to launch a missile attack on Israel.
Perhaps, that is the thorn in side for USA.
Another point, and in spite of what Cameron and Obama are spouting, if a country attacks another it has a legal responsibility to "reparation" and "care" for the people of that country.
IE. USA, UK and France will have to put their troops into Syria, unless they can do a deal in the UN.
There is hypocrisy surrounding the grand standing which Cameron is pushing and more responsibility than he is admitting.