Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Akbar is a spineless person who ran away is views are worthless . a coward

hay so why are the ARAB league not going to fight to free Syria but seat on the fence
spineless or what . talk is cheap words mean nothing without action

He didn't run away. He is still chairman of an Iranian counci.

so why is he not saying iran should take action .words are cheap mean nothing only action speaks

Because Iran are Syria's ally. It is surprising that he has said anything. The official Iran news service reported his remarks and later edited them to remove the cause being Syria.

as I said talk and words mean fcuk all only action counts .
the ARAB league spineless and want Christians to fight for them
then get stabbed in the back .

Hays,

I would like to use one of Manuel's favourite words, but won't, but will think you are becoming one.


"A better option would be Miliband eating humble pie and asking for a vote. If there is another chemical attack the Labour will find itself on the wrong side of history and will incur a lot of abuse."

The coalition is said to have a working majority (how many work I don't know).

If Cameron can't organise himself and his legion of campfollowers to pass a bill as important as what you was presented points to his "bloody" incompetence and trying to blame others for an obvious hypocrisy.

His own party distrust him and probably see him as a lying hypocrit and self advancing.

To taken any war or "military strategy" with the present incumbent of No 10 is seen by parliament and the country to be a folly.

To enter any partnership with him with the view of intervening in any more hazardous than crossing the road would be maddness.

He is incompetent and blown it.


He hasn't got control of the "tools" thank god nor the wit to use them to use them appropriately if he had.

He has no forward plan of how to deal with the consequences of any military actions, or doesn't even know what his "partners" are proposing.

He is disaster and should be retired.


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It is said that a democracy should be ruled by the "will" of the majority of the people. In this case it seems, for good or bad to have been.

Cameron and the present elitist club surrounding him fell into the trap of taking parliament for granted and have been hoisted with their own petard.

The public know it, and so do you.

Hils - spot on, what could be more important? Hazard is your best player, build a team around him and the special one will shine :O)

My God, Fred talking sense now there is a first. Don't hold your breath wont last :O)

Taken from Wicky

On Monday, August 6, 1945, at 8:15 a.m., the Atomic Bomb "Little Boy" was dropped on Hiroshima by an American B-29 bomber, the Enola Gay, flown by Paul Tibbets,[15] directly killing an estimated 80,000 people. By the end of the year, injury and radiation brought total casualties to 90,000–140,000.[16] The population before the bombing was around 340,000 to 350,000. Approximately 69% of the city's buildings were completely destroyed, and another 7% severely damaged.



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What is sticking in the throat of many observers is that subsequent to the above the major powers have held onto the WMDs. ie Britain, Russia, China, America, France and a few other smaller forces including ISRAEL, while decrying the numerically less potent Chemical Warfare of less affluent nations.

The major reasons for holding them is said to be "for power and influence" or "power and control".

Personally, I would like to see Assad removed from the scene and ceremonially hung, and replaced by a more congenial government to the Syrians as a whole.

But, I cannot see how attempting to smack the arse of "psychopath" such as Assad is, will remove him and his immediate supporters from powere or bring him to "justice".

However, I can see how a number of "self righteous" missile strikes will kill a disproportionate number of innocent people.

Miliband discussed the motion with Cameron and had it altered before the vote. Miliban assured Cameron that he would support the motion, which did not commit the UK to a strike on Syria and would have required a further vote. When it came to the vote he changed his mind, partly because of political opportunism and partly because he wasn't sure he could carry his party with him. All in all it was a disgraceful performance by Miliband.

You are joking once again and appear on this to be as big a fool as your dear leader.

I would suppose there are written minutes of the meeting you cite and also of the discussion. If so No 10 can print those records.


Personally, I wouldn't trust Cameron to give me his own name and that opinion seems shared by many of said tories.

If he can’t hold the support and “loyalty” of his own party why should he expect support from others.

The labour party members are not subservient to the whims of your egotistic icon and voted according to the tastes.


Cameron blew it as he did three years ago with his ill thought out economic policies of contraction.

I wonder when with the housing inflation, which appears to be heading up a rampant pathway and out of relationship to "incomes", will produce the next U-turn or climb down.

Cameron is stoking up more and more problems.

If they were only for himself I would be happy, but he is attempting to take others with him as a consequnce of his own actions.

He is running out of Scapegoats.

I suppose there is always Porky and Hague.

The weekly Monday Populus poll is out, and has topline figures of CON 34%, LAB 38%, LDEM 12%, UKIP 8%. It was conducted over the weekend, and unlike the YouGov/Sunday Times poll obviously shows no impact on voting intention from the Syria defeat.

Obama can't even sort out the gun laws in his own country, what makes anyone think he has the power to stop people getting murdered/maimed in other countries?

With the hierachy in the EU continually striving for bigger and closer European integration, how come it is left to the Governments of individual EU countries to decide whether action should be taken/not taken against Syria. Surely if the EU as a whole took the decision to take action/no action, it would carry that much more weight.
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The EU is even slower than the UN to make its mind up over situations. It debated endlessly over Kosovo, Lybiia, Serbia and many other conflicts. I can't recall them actually doing anything until plenty of others are involved. They want to be a replacement for NATO, but it won't happen.

Three or four years ago there was a website with a very similar sounding name to this one, I remember people used to discuss financial trading opportunities, tactics etc., I particularly remember that rookie traders could obtain support and advice from experienced traders providing that they had the right learning attitude.

I don't know whether it closed down but I cannot find any trace of it now.

H, We are all aware of the protracted decision making of the EU, witness the countless meetings re the financial crisis (still not resolved).
The point I was trying to make was why on the one hand the EU hierachy deem it necessary for countries to make collective decisions, but on the other hand allow an individual country to act alone, in something as serious as this potential conflict. Let's face it if Syria or it's allies decide to hit back at (in this case) France, France's close proximity to Germany, Belgium, Spain and others (including us), it could be horrendous for the EU countries as a whole.
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It's not compulsory to read this thread Plateman and it can be highly amusing at times, especially when the markets are incredibly boring ! There are some excellent threads on individual shares here. Why don't you start your own thread on this website and encourage other posters to exchange views with you?

Not sure how Syria will hit back at France. They don't have missiles anywhere that long range.