Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Haystack
- 04 Jul 2010 21:17
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As for Hamas not wanting humanitarian aid: -
Today
Relief aid and medicines from the Aman Palestine Institute in Malaysia with an estimated worth of $100,000US arrived in Gaza on Sunday morning via the Egyptian Rafah crossing.
tyketto
- 04 Jul 2010 22:26
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towing the line
Is that americanese?
Haystack
- 04 Jul 2010 23:07
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It was from an Israeli web site. I corrected a few spelling mistakes, but probably missed some.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 10:04
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did i miss something or did i not see any rebuttal about hamas creaming in the dosh from the smuggling tunnels?
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 10:07
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I wouldn't know if they make money out of smuggling or not. I hope they would make a bit tio fund their party. I doubt that they do make any money as it is not them directly who do the smuggling but it is possible.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 13:35
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very gullible aren't you
racing certainty they have their wallets wide open and ask for it to be filled in large denomination notes
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 14:44
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I doubt it. There is very little money in Gaza to pay them with. The economy is almost non existent due to Israel trying to crush Gaza. You could be right thoug, there is no way of telling. I suppose it would be simialr to supposing that various people in Israel are getting cash to flatten Arab houses of residents in East Jerusalm.
05/07/2010 - 10:02 AM
The Israeli Haaretz newspaper reported Monday that there are plans to build 2,700 housing units in West Bank settlements as soon as the nominal settlement freeze ends next September.
The newspaper also noted that the Israeli municipal council in occupied Jerusalem will approve next week a plan to build 60 settlement units north of occupied Jerusalem.
A report issued by B'Tselem, a human rights organization, said that the settlements in the West Bank have tripled since the signing of the Oslo agreement in 1993.
The report revealed that the Jewish settlements effectively control nearly 42 per cent of the West Bank while the Israeli government still encourages settlers to move to settlements, the thing which prevents the establishment of a Palestinian state.
B'Tselem said the settlements, a major stumbling block in now-stalled peace talks, have resulted in extensive Israeli human rights violations against the Palestinians.
It said Israeli treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank was reminiscent of the old apartheid regime in South Africa and called on Israel to stop granting incentives to Israelis to move to settlements, and to dismantle them.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 15:26
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you are just sooooooooo gullible!
if no one was able to buy the black marketeers' goods, there would be no black market ..... peeps have no money because they are forced to pay the extortionate prices or do without
are you now going to claim hamas are altruistic?
get real!
they're as greed-driven as the rest of the world - i.e. totally
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 15:31
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Actually I do think Hamas is altruistic, certainly more so than the government of Israel.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 15:34
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merely proves my comment ...... you (and fred and others) are a total mug!
talk about being blindly led, this almost takes the biscuit - or the matzoh if you wish to continue the nonsense!
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 15:54
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I would rather believe what Hamas had to say than Israel. It is good to see that Israel is getting more and more isolated daya by day. Hamas, on the other hand, is fast rising as the most important voice of the Palestinians and is being taken seriously now by the US, the EU and other Arab states.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 15:55
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you continue to evade the question .... or is that because you are a total imbecile and incapable of independent thought?
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 15:58
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What question?
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 16:05
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limited memory too ..... do you refute the suggestion that hamas take a slice from goods smuggled into gaza through the tunnels?
i have little interest in hamas's political pretensions and posturing of injured innocence
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 16:12
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I have answered the question. I said that I have no idea if they do or not. I would doubt it, but who knows. You might as well ask the same sort of question of the Israelis who man the crossing posts with Gaza. There have been plenty of accusations of bribes necessary to allow the import of medical supplies and food.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 16:16
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i was merely asking about hamas and their band of thugs ..... and before your single cell gets overheated, i did not ever suggest in any way that i thought the israeli gov't was as band of angels either
i think you should change your handle to hayseed, or is it that from small hayseeds mighty haystacks grow?
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 16:23
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The majority of bribes are paid to the Egyptian middle men who arrange for the supplies to be delivered to the tunnels and not Hamas. there have been plenty of stories published even in Israel of Israel forces taking bribes at the crossings. There is plenty of evidence of Egyptian troops at the crossings even letting in arms to Gaza for a price.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 16:26
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05/07/2010 - 03:11 PM
Turkish minister of foreign affairs Ahmet Davutoglu warned that Turkey would sever all its relations with Israel if the latter did not apologize for its deadly attack on the Freedom Flotilla aid convoy that led to the killing of nine Turkish citizens.
Davutoglu demanded, according to Hurriyet newspaper issued on Monday, Israel to make an apology and accept the results of the international investigation committee.
The newspaper said that the minister declared that his country has now closed its airspace to ALL Israeli military flights, not just on a case by case basis and may expand the ban to include civilian flights as well.
The office of Israeli premier Benjamin Netanyahu stated for its part that Israel would never apologize for the attack, alleging it had the right to defend its citizens.
All indicators suggest that the tension between Turkey and the Israeli occupation state might escalate after Netanyahu stubbornly refused to apologize for killing the Turkish nationals during the attack.
Turkish columnist Ismail Kapan told the Palestinian information center (PIC) that the tension between the two countries would remain the center of attention at the present time because of Israel's intransigent attitude.
Kapan added that this position would prompt Ankara to harden its tone further against Israel, which in turn would significantly affect the relations between the two sides, noting that the biggest loser in this situation is Israel.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 16:28
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but i take it hamas do not have their wallets open for their significant slice - or at least not in your purblind eyes
can't be arsed to read your customary verbose diatribe beneath
Isaacs
- 05 Jul 2010 16:40
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Haystack - 02 Jul 2010 12:21 - 3008 of 3059
That was the sort of illogical response I would expect from a supporter of Israel. Suggest firing rockets at someone because you don't agree with their point of view.
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I wasn't suggesting that and I'm sure you know it. Perverse twisted logic. I was suggesting that if rockets were flying past your window you might not think a few rockets counts as "hardly anything" and that because "no damage is done" doesn't mean that it is ok.