Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

where's that stan?
the pub?

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opinion over here re the iran deal is that it will be very good for business.

no one gives a fig for the predictable response from Israel, though that may be more for domestic consumption that anything else

North, Central and West, The Pub's in Nunhead, South.

nunhead?
does that date back to the time of the black death (1348-52) and the migration of the remains of the population
wasn't that even earlier than the industrial revolution? :-)


time to adjourn for some very good steak and red wine
glad it's not my wallet paying :-)

Scrounger alert!

What sort of steak and where from? Maybe camel steak?

A glass of red wine in Dubai - ouch, very expensive.

Not for Alf it's not -):

Cynic,

You really are an idiot with similar traits to the present spivs in the cabinet at the moment who believe in short term gains and are shouting about planning but not looking past the ends of their noses.

Re-read Post 33269

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Sure the price of housing depends on demand, and sure where there is wealth and high employment prices will be high.

But it would seem wiser and preferable to disperse some of the employment and work out of London and give companies and workers incentives to do so.

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It would be better if companies moved out of Love neon. It has been tried before and companies don't want to go. When I had a company in London, I would not have moved.

Hays.

I am quite content for you to stay in London.

amazing - well not really

i think fred's view of the world is, shall we say unworldly, so in his eyes i'm an idiot
fine by me, but i really care not one iota ..... at least i live in the real world and not in some make-believe wannabe utopia

so do i think fred is an idiot?
no; merely a delusionary

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hays - 95% of steaks here are (dull) grain fed cattle, so i opted for short ribs and a bottle of ok rioja at silly money (as always) ..... and no, my own wallet was not suffering

So am I. I rarely leave London unless it is to go abroad.

"Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who is willing to leave London. No, Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford."
— Samuel Johnson

Ah, but theres the rub... increasingly, you cant afford London.

quite so, and thus it is not impossible that London will ultimately collapse for residence and merely become a business centre, though important for all that

you only need to look at the rise and fall and sometimes rise again of various London streets and areas, st giles (just off centre point) being a classic example

I cant see where this will end.

London and the S/E in general is fast approaching lunatic levels of costs to live.

I cannot see why having so much wealth tied up outside productive use is any good in the long term.

any good to whom?

well, it's been good for me, but I suspect it has not been good for many.

ie, Germany does not have the property bug, most rent long term.

money goes into productive assets...seems to work for them.

different cultures, different tastes or even aspirations, the latter leading to a whole different can of worms

btw, so who owns the properties in Germany which are rented?
3 guesses

Companies for the most part, or so I understand. Plus some very very wealthy toffs.

if it's companies, who owns the companies?
shareholders = individuals = same as property unit trusts
so what's the difference?

personally, i prefer to own my own property or perhaps buy shares in a small hotel property-owning group