It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...

chris...re the tv channels...sky have bought the exclusive rights to scotland home games so no other channel allowed to show it but i dont really know what your point is on that one i dont really care what channel it is on

also....you are taking a swipe at the SFA but dont even know what their role is...so all i am saying is try and get some context before you make sweeping accusations

and re scottish players always going donw south...not the case for a decade scotland took the best of the english players when rangers were throwing money about

come on the french!

Andy Carroll best brit on the pitch first half. French outplayed England. Rio, Theo & Gareth off 2nd half. Shame for Walcott, imo, but the rest needn't have bothered turning up...... so far!

Our keeper's done OK.. near post goal aside that is -):

Treb - Not only do i not even know what the role of the SFA is, I don't even give a flyin fxxk! My point was Scottish players and managers have taken the road south for decades, back to the Busby, Shankly, Law, Mackay era. And for those decades whoever is responsible for the running of football in Scotland have done nothing to change it.

This decade of English players at Rangers, remind me again how many European Cups they won. I can remember Gazza playing for Rangers and winding the Celtic fans up pretending to play the flute. How many Scots in the Rangers team are there today? Do you really count Rangers (Scots wanting to be English) and Celtic (Scots wanting to be Irish) as role models for Scottish football?

chris...out of a normal rangers starting 11 maybe 8 of them would be scottish (Mcgregor, Weir, Broadfoot, Whittaker, Miller, Naismith, Webster, Fleck to name a few)...why if you dont care about scottish football do you keep commenting about it (usually fairly inaccurately)

i know you are in the huff as you got humped again but keep the pecker up old bean

World class players everyone of em Treb. Spain must be shixxxing themselves at the thought of playing some of those guys in the Euro qualifyer eh?

Disappointing performance, but not unexpected. Arsenal's reserve full back hardly got out of his own half and distribution awful; same for Jakielka. Ferdinand & Lecott ok.

Midfield total rubbish, devoid of attacking ideas.

All the punters wanted Gerrard playing in the hole, yep, that worked well..........err...not.

Carroll the only ray of sunshine during the first half.

Totally outclassed by a team in tatters a few months ago.

As far as the state of the national team is concerned, I certainly believe Sky money has ruined any chance of any of the home countries winning a trophy. Very rarely are players plucked out of the lower leagues and nutured to become excellent players. It's all too easy to go abroad and buy the ready made working article, safe in the knowledge Sky have funded the costs.

Dire England performance tonight .... still Wales away next so should bounce back -):

But I can always take comfort from the fact, Scotland are even more shit, followed closely in the shit stakes by Wales.

Love ya Treb & Dil :-)

chris...what are you on about...you asked how many scottish players would start for rangers.....you never asked how many were world class...

how many english starters for spurs, arsenal or chelsea? less than 8 between them possibly?

ps i did not see any word class players in white tonight, or in fact for a long time...last english stand out...maybe Linkeker or Beckham on his day........2 in 20 years....sums it up really

now what channel can i get Iain Wright on...

BBc Scotland!

pt ... post 327 , unlike England we are not deluded enough to believe we can win anything but qualifying for something would be nice ! England didn't qualify for a world cup for twenty years between 1962 and 1982 so maybe it aint just the money to blame.

pt ... post 329 , hope you pick and bring back Heskey and the rest of your WC flops (Lampard for one) , we gonna stuff you :-)

What those players need is a good night out (well behaved in a restaurant with good food and relaxation)....perhaps a little trip to some winter sports...(no accidents).....and then some mighty hard work on the field...boot camp style.......quick passing...training...shots on goal....endless free kicks taken by the whole team...goalkeepers included....the problem is that they are not clicking....!!!!...

Last thing some players need is a night out rf ... Bellamy , Gerrard , Carrol , etc etc

How can we be ranked 6 by FIFA and France 21st.

Its stupidity.

Hoof the ball in the air for Carrol all match England. He does have feet you know. This is not the 1980s.

If this is what we have to look forward to for the future Im switching to rugby union.

They do not click in midfield and lose the ball all the time.... I think the problem is also with the defenders who haven't a clue as how to play.....Lescot ?...are you kidding pholden ?....what on earth is he doing in the national side....?....I would not pick him for sunday morning soccer !...

Dil

I've given up with the national team. You're absolutely right, too many deluded years spent believing we had some god given right to win tournaments, whilst in reality we we had been left behind. Cue Sky money post deluded years and the problems remain.

RF

He had a decent enough match, no own goals, no penalty conceded or sent off, which is the general yardstick I use for English players these days!

i think this clip is a fair expression of how everyone in the uk feels about cashley mole

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qROMT_N3iw&feature=channel

Referees on strike in Scotland?... joining their goalkeepers then -):

interesting article......

The real winners of the Champions League

Champions League, including Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson said recently that it was more interesting than the

World Cup, has become over the last decade an extraordinary business enterprise, generating revenues that have grown to

the extent of the television rights. The golden age began with the 2000s: the explosion date precisely the 1999/2000 season

and, despite a dip in the middle of the decade, the amount of each of the last three seasons ... is six times that of 1996/1997.

Who wins the division of wealth, then? These funds are distributed among clubs according to three criteria: a fixed part,

one part "sports" indexed to the course in competition and a share named Market Pool, calculated based on the amount

television rights paid by each country ... What makes it a powerful tool to direct resources where they are already the most

concentrated. Thus, for the same route to the quarter-finals, Manchester United will hit nearly 29 million Market Pool,

Glasgow 11.9 million and CSKA Moscow 4.8.

To better understand who benefits most from the system, we have compiled data on the earnings of clubs during the period

from the 2003/2004 season to the 2009/2010 season and corresponding to a formula sports unchanged (except that of the

towers preliminary).

English clubs' earnings are more than double those of French clubs. But the gap is primarily between the top 5 and

thereafter. France, 5e, has collected more than double the Netherlands, 6.

The Big Four is not a figment of the imagination. Only four English clubs have competed in seven years. They made sure

the pie bigger, while cutting it into little parts.

La Liga holds the record number of participants (10) while having called the Real-Barca duo 13 times out of 14. Valencia

registration at three appearances, the seven other Spanish courses have one to two. Big Two is the option.

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England makes a hat-trick on the podium for two titles won by Manchester and Liverpool - the Reds are only eighth. The

four big windfall realized with British rule over the period (unless this is the reverse).

One title has eluded members of the top 10 over the last seven seasons: the first year, 2003/2004, which has returned to FC

Porto to Jose Mourinho. The Portuguese club are 14th, despite a strike in seven appearances.

FC Barcelona will peak in sixth position, despite the two titles won. The Blaugrana will have "only" six appearances and

suffer from a Market Poo less than that of the French clubs.

Olympique Lyonnais ahead of Barcelona, Bayern, Liverpool, AC Milan and Real ... He has secured 100 million euros

more than the runner nationally, Bordeaux. This is the Big One in the French ... or German, since Bayern has widened gaps

with competitors like the Bundesliga.

Champions League creates, both through its competition format that its system of distribution of gains, a virtuous circle for

the benefit of the richest clubs: they are certain to recover a share of revenues which guarantees them a position very

dominant both economically and sporting - with the ability to monopolize the market for better players. Reforms (back to a

single group stage in 2003/2004, new access with better representation of "small" countries) have barely inflected trend (read

" A reform for almost nothing ").

We also understand how the almost systematic qualification for C1 is a condition sine qua non to stay in this elite. Between

those who succeed and others, there is now a world.

[1] Porto: 7. Olympiakos, Dynamo Kiev, PSV: 6. Celtic: 5. Fenerbahce, Rangers, CSKA Moscow, Panathinaikos 4.

Author's note: other data are presented in graphic here .