goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 21 Dec 2013 14:32
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cynic
- 21 Dec 2013 15:08
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fred - you're a laugh a minute; well I guess some find you funny ...... because I disagree with much or even most of what you post, you determine that I must have been brainwashed, though by whom you never specify .... mind you, you frequently post that I have no brain, so make your mind up
MaxK
- 21 Dec 2013 15:10
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If Cameroon wanted to put a stop to benefit tourists, all he has to do is change the entitlement rules.
If you have not been a contributor or in full time education for the last 5 years, you are entitled to nothing.
Problem solved, and as it applies to everyone, the €uroloons cannot stick their oar in.
Fred1new
- 21 Dec 2013 15:33
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Manuel,
I have to admit that it is probable that you must have a brain.
With a little bit of encouragement I am certain you would find it useful.
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Max,
Guessing, what would be the cost of the system set up to deal with the minuscule amounts of abuses?
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Again, if an individual is working abroad (including the lazy English) falls and breaks his/her arm, or wrist on had debilitating illness and would be able to return to work in 6-12 weeks "lay off" would they not have "support" to keep them off the pavements and food banks etc..
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What would have reduced abuse of "Wealth Fare Claims" would have been the proposed ID cards, which would have, if used appropriately, helped to reduce false and duplicated claims.
But the fears were that it would also be used to trace multiple bank accounts used for tax avoidance or transfer of untaxed money out of the UK.
Funny, how some of those who cried out against ID are in favour of Government plundering E-mails and the internet. (Of course under indirect supervision by the "governors".
Apologies Government!
Haystack
- 21 Dec 2013 15:59
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You have to provide an NI number to get a bank account, so ID cards would make no difference. The banks require plenty of identity proof these days. In reality is was mainly the left leaning public that were opposed to ID cards.
dreamcatcher
- 21 Dec 2013 16:04
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Legendary BBC sports presenter David Coleman dies aged 87 after a brief illness
dreamcatcher
- 21 Dec 2013 16:09
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Revealed: The top 50 most desirable places to live in Britain with Hart in Hampshire topping the list for third year in a row
Uttlesford No2 :-))
How is Woking no 37 know one lives in that shi - hole ? :-))
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-2527092/Revealed-The-50-desirable-places-live-Britain.html
MaxK
- 21 Dec 2013 17:54
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Johnny45, Wolverhampton, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
NO MULTI-CULTURAL CRAP HERE THEN. SHOULD SEE WOLVERHAMPTON., ITS LIKE MOGADISHU!!!
cynic
- 21 Dec 2013 18:01
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enoch powell spins ever faster in his grave, not least because hordes with machetes are not (yet) roaming the streets
MaxK
- 21 Dec 2013 18:09
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Insight - The Great British tax giveaway
By Tom Bergin
LONDON Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:30am GMT

The sun rises above the financial district of the City of London in this April 23, 2011 file photo. A Reuters examination of available public records has found that for the most recent financial year, British shareholders of at least 11 major blue chip firms have received more in dividend tax credits from the UK tax authority than they lost through the corporate income tax levied on their companies. This means that in effect, the UK government is subsidising them to own shares.
Credit: Reuters/Kieran Doherty/Files
(Reuters) - When Neil Withington, the legal director of British American Tobacco (BAT) and the firm's largest British shareholder, files his next tax return, he will receive a little help from the state. Like every other UK taxpayer, he will be entitled to a tax credit on any dividend payment he receives. He can use it to reduce his total bill.
The credit is intended to compensate shareholders for the fact that dividends are paid out of income which has already been subject to UK corporate income tax. To help avoid the same money being taxed twice, the UK trims its levy on dividends.
There's just one problem: BAT, Europe's biggest cigarette maker by sales, didn't have a UK tax bill at all last year. In fact, its accounts show, over the past six years its total UK tax expense has been zero.
More:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/uk-tax-britain-credits-insight-idUKBRE9BJ09120131220
aldwickk
- 21 Dec 2013 20:08
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The top 50 most undesirable places to live in Britain with anywere close to Fred's place coming top.
MaxK
- 22 Dec 2013 08:00
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MaxK
- 22 Dec 2013 08:22
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Fred1new
- 22 Dec 2013 12:31
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dreamcatcher
- 22 Dec 2013 14:59
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A pair of turkeys .:-))
Fred1new
- 22 Dec 2013 15:17
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Max,
"There's just one problem: BAT, Europe's biggest cigarette maker by sales, didn't have a UK tax bill at all last year. In fact, its accounts show, over the past six years its total UK tax expense has been zero."
That is what it is all about!
cynic
- 22 Dec 2013 15:41
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immigration
Labour's David Hanson, shadow immigration minister, said the Government was "hopelessly split" on the issue.
"Rather than deal with genuine concerns in a calm and measured way the Prime Minister has sought headlines and panicked on issues he could have dealt with much earlier," he said.
"Once again the rhetoric fails to match the reality with this government on immigration."
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so now we've read labour's rhetoric on this important issue, and yes it's certainly true that the lib/dems are intrinsically very soft on the idea of restrictions
however, I see nowhere what would labour would actually do to remedy their own disastrous policies of the past, were they now in charge
quite how strong a policy dc will be able to force through remains to be seen, though i fear it will also be a bit wishy-washy, in part due to the legal straightjacket imposed on uk by european courts
Fred1new
- 22 Dec 2013 16:13
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cynic
- 22 Dec 2013 16:15
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well fawlty, you're always an instant source for perfect solutions (in your eyes anyway), so what's your idea, given that you can't change what is inherited?
Haystack
- 22 Dec 2013 16:21
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The policy split is very interesting. The Conservatives are keen on setting tight caps on immigration. Clegg and Cable both say they will block any new restrictions. That may well pu them on the wrong side of the argument as regards the public. It won't do the Libs much good if they are seen to be blocking immigration controls as the public are in favour.
The public currently regard immigration as more important than the EU as an issue. Some backbenchers are worried that tight immigration controls will cost them votes in ethnic areas. As far as I can see immigration controls are actually welcome in ethnic areas. Once people get let in the UK that are in favour of stopping any more. I won't mention which ones, but there are several ethnic groups that are far more racist than what you might call white Anglo Saxons.