goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
MaxK
- 29 Dec 2013 09:57
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You don't take that article seriously do you Fred?
MaxK
- 29 Dec 2013 10:08
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The Lord of Nowhere At All.
Fred1new
- 29 Dec 2013 10:22
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Never had that ambition.
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Leave medals and gongs for the elitists who need them to bolster their opinions of themselves.
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MaxK
- 29 Dec 2013 10:37
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cynic
- 29 Dec 2013 13:12
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and still fossy (rather pathetically) ducks telling us his views on hollande and his left-socialist policies, yet hollande should surely be fossy's idol on how to manage an economy with such policies
fossy's silence is deafening and likely to remain that way
Haystack
- 29 Dec 2013 13:13
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Another poll showing the opposite
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10540590/Britain-must-keep-Romanian-and-Bulgarian-restrictions.html
Britain must keep Romanian and Bulgarian restrictions
Public overwhelmingly in favour of keeping restrictions on Bulgarian and Romanian migrants even if it means breaking EU law
Seven in 10 Britons believe David Cameron should retain restrictions on Romanian and Bulgarian migrants even if it means breaking European Union laws, according to a new poll for the Sunday Telegraph.
The ICM survey found that the public overwhelmingly backs a call by dozens of Conservative rebels for the Government to ban migrants from both countries coming to Britain for at least another five years.
The findings come amid fears that hundreds of thousands of migrants could arrive from Romania and Bulgaria – the poorest countries in the EU – when current restrictions are lifted on January 1.
More than 70 Tory rebels have called on David Cameron to ban migrants from both countries coming to Britain until at least 2019 amid concerns over the pressure they will put on the NHS, the jobs market and the welfare state.
Haystack
- 29 Dec 2013 13:14
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Funny how the last poll was the Guardian and this one is the Telegraph.
cynic
- 29 Dec 2013 14:02
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the labour party admit, though rather sotto voce, that they completely screwed up with their immigration policies
unfortunately, it is that nasty mess that now needs to be dealt with though it is a very fair criticism that the current crew should have put in place the road towards much tougher policies many months or even a year or two ago
i fear that what will now be produced will be something pretty wishy-washy so as not to run foul of the courts in brussels
halt immigration in its tracks?
no; that would just be damn silly and indeed counter-productive
a tough but realistic points system + restrictions on an immigrant's right to assorted welfare benefits, running the full gamut from health through housing and everything else?
most assuredly
will the latter be imposed and applied and immediately?
fat chance!
goldfinger
- 29 Dec 2013 14:12
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29 December 2013 Last updated at 11:45
Debt crisis will hurt millions, says think-tank
Even in a "good growth" scenario, the number of households facing a debt crisis would almost double
Millions of UK households will face "perilous" levels of debt when interest rates begin to rise, according to a think-tank focused on living standards.
The number of people using more than half their disposable income to repay debt could rise from 600,000 to a 1.1 million by 2018 if interest rates rise to 3%, said the Resolution Foundation.
If rates hit 5%, two million households would face huge repayments, it said.
Mortgages are the largest source of UK household debt.
The Resolution Foundation study used the latest five-year growth projections from the independent Office for Budget Responsibility.
"Even if we take a somewhat rosy view of how the economy will develop over the next few years the number of households severely exposed to debt looks as though it will double," said Matthew Whittaker, the senior economist at the Resolution Foundation.
"But the levels of debt built up by families in the pre-crisis years are such that even relatively modest changes in incomes and borrowing cost assumptions produce significantly worse outcomes."
The Resolution Foundation said the number of households in so-called "debt peril" - spending more than half their income to debt repayments - was 870,000 in 2007, just before the financial crisis.
If rates do not rise above 3% by 2018, then the Resolution Foundation suggests 1.1 million will be in "debt peril".
Unemployment rates
"On the most adverse, but still plausible, scenario looked at in the Resolution Foundation analysis the number of households in Britain who spend at least half their disposable income on repaying debts (and are therefore deemed to be in debt peril) could more than triple - from 600,000 in 2011 to 2 million by 2018," it said.
The predictions apply to all debt, including credit cards and other loans - but mortgages make up the largest slice of most debt in the UK.
The Bank of England has kept interest rates on hold at a record low of 0.5% since March 2009.
Under the Bank's policy of forward guidance, brought in Governor Mark Carney, it has said it will not increase interest rates until the rate of unemployment has dropped below 7%.
The UK unemployment rate this month recently fell to 7.4% during the three months to October, the lowest level since early 2009, which led some economists to predict that the Bank may raise rates as soon as next year.
Recently, the Conservative-leaning think tank, the Centre for Social Justice, said the average UK household has debts of £54,000, including mortgages. This is nearly twice the level of a decade ago and much more must be done to help the UK's poorest families, it said.
Haystack
- 29 Dec 2013 14:36
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aldwickk
- 29 Dec 2013 14:38
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Lord Prescott
aldwickk
- 29 Dec 2013 14:40
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Fred Lord of - - - - ? any idea's
aldwickk
- 29 Dec 2013 14:44
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The UK should take in some refugees from Syria's civil war, UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage has said.
He told BBC News that Western countries should agree to take an allocation, but he did not specify numbers.
Mr Farage, who has led opposition to allowing open immigration from Romania and Bulgaria in the new year, said refugees were "a very different thing".
The UK government is refusing to accept Syrian refugees, saying it is better to offer financial help.
Bad cop now good cop Will this get UKIP more or less votes ? risky move by Farage.
Haystack
- 29 Dec 2013 15:05
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25541739
France's 75% tax rate gains approval by top court
France's highest court has approved a 75% tax on high earners that is one of President Francois Hollande's signature policies.
The initial proposal to tax individual incomes was ruled unconstitutional by the Constitutional Council almost exactly one year ago.
But the government modified it to make employers liable for the 75% tax on salaries exceeding 1m euros (£830,000).
The levy will last two years, affecting income earned this year and in 2014.
Football clubs in France went on strike earlier this year over the issue, saying many of France's clubs are financially fragile and say the plans could spark an exodus of top players who are paid huge salaries.
The Qatari-owned Paris Saint-Germain has more than 10 players whose pay exceeds 1m euros, including the Swedish striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
There has also been a chorus of protest from businesses and wealthy individuals who have condemned the tax - including film star Gerard Depardieu, who left the country in protest.
Polls suggest a large majority in France back the temporary tax.
Unlike many other countries in Europe, France aims to bring down its huge public deficit by raising taxes as well as some spending cuts.
The highest tax rate in the UK is 45% and is applied to individuals.
Fred1new
- 29 Dec 2013 15:07
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Manuel,
Get back in you kennel!
I know as you have stated previously and it is obvious that you didn't benefit from your education, but I personally would find you to obtuse to attempt to help you with your obvious past educational failings.
Suggest, you read a little more and write a little less and with a help from other than myself your contributions may improve.
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As far as Hollande is concerned, I am prepared to wait and see.
But any opinion other than your own or tory party HQ would probably be dismissed out of hand.
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After reading Fauxpage's views on Syrian immigrants to-day, it will be interesting to see Cammerooon next u-turn.
(His rapidity of policy changes, I would think he confuses himself.)
Once again, I wonder as the Con party attempts to appease its deserters to UKIP and if they succeed with their feeble blustering attempts to block immigration, who, or what, will they hold responsible for their next row of failures?
They are running out of scapegoats for the problems of their own making and looking more and more farcical every day!
But the sad and worrying thing for me is that they behaviour reminds many and myself of another crowd of elitists, that is Oswald Mosley and his "black shirts" friends.
Fred1new
- 29 Dec 2013 15:11
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Has not George and cronies admitted that in the unlikely case of he and his cronies getting elected in 2015 that Tax levels would be raised?
MaxK
- 29 Dec 2013 15:30
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goldfinger
- 29 Dec 2013 16:03
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