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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 07 Apr 2014 10:01 - 39321 of 81564

I'm sure Call Me Dave will be on the case as soon as he gets your mail.

MaxK - 07 Apr 2014 11:16 - 39322 of 81564

Fred1new - 07 Apr 2014 11:44 - 39323 of 81564





Comment

"I see the idea of free schools as a very positive one - the one that can run in parallel to the state schools, unions and the vested interests and eventually out-compete and make state schools redundant.
Particularly if the State is prepare to throw money at them it refuses to spend on other schools"



Cash for the icon to tory failing ideology, none for the weakest in society.

These are the torrid days.

Fred1new - 07 Apr 2014 11:49 - 39324 of 81564

Hazy One.

A cartoon for the walls of your party HQ.





Ps.
I wonder who he is referring to as badger.

I know the rat in a hole!

Haystack - 07 Apr 2014 12:04 - 39325 of 81564



Steve Richards has written in the New Statesman about the mood of paranoia and suspicion around Ed Miliband. His fearfully supportive team resembles the North Korean inner circle daring not to offer even constructive criticism of their dear leader:

“Miliband’s staff are loyal to him personally but in their determined or fearful supportiveness there is little space for critical candour. Nearly all those who work for Miliband are dependent on his patronage. He chose them and they are pleased to be close to him. They do not want to say things that he does not want to hear. The contrast with Tony Blair’s office is marked. Blair had to plead with Alastair Campbell to join him, going out to see him while Campbell was on holiday in France as part of the energetic wooing process. Campbell could be brutally candid because he knew Blair wanted him so much. Other advisers, such as Peter Mandelson, had been senior to Blair in the 1980s. They, too, could be ruthlessly or constructively critical, sometimes both. This does not happen very much in Miliband’s office; indeed, the opposite can happen. I am told that sometimes his staff applaud him when he returns from making a mediocre speech.”

MaxK - 07 Apr 2014 12:39 - 39326 of 81564

Fred1new - 07 Apr 2014 13:58 - 39327 of 81564

Hazy One,

You seem to me, out of touch once again.

Even Norman Tebbit is telling you that.

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My feeling about the Labour shadow cabinet is that they are preparing to be elected and working hard and quietly to formulate and consider sensible policies to present before the next election.

While the tories are failing more and more to con the public by rushing to press and media to present new policies and old mantras they haven’t scrutinised.

It is not only Wavy Dave but wavy tories waving good bye.

(Welcome to you new Wavy Party. No wonder the old cons are rushing to the party of kippers.)

I think Miliband is a shrewder cookie than many give him credit for and which he should be with his background.

Cameron and crew are digging bigger and bigger holes for themselves and while they are doing that it suits him to watch and wait.

ptholden - 07 Apr 2014 16:44 - 39328 of 81564

Max, I'm sure Dave will see the light and sack the thieving ****

Fred1new - 07 Apr 2014 18:24 - 39329 of 81564

Has Maria got anything on Dave.

In the majority of cabinets her feet wouldn't have hit the floor on the way out.


But I forgot that Cameron is a principal man with, or without principles.

An icon of standards for the party and the public to look up to?

MaxK - 07 Apr 2014 18:37 - 39330 of 81564

Call Me Dave's vanity project comes off the rails....




HS2: this environmental report should be the final blow

The Commons environmental audit committee has demolished any green pretensions the high-speed rail project may have had


Stanley Johnson


theguardian.com, Monday 7 April 2014 08.49 BST


The faster a train goes, the more energy it needs. An HS2 train travelling at 225 mph would use three times as much energy as an Intercity train travelling at 125 mph. According to the committee's report, HS2 "told us that the possibility of lower train operation speeds had not been considered".

Happily, the committee makes good that omission by recommending that "the government should examine the scope for requiring a reduced maximum speed for the trains until electricity generation has been sufficiently decarbonised".


If anything is a killer paragraph, this is it. Decoded, it means that the committee is in practice recommending that high-speed trains should run at normal speeds, since nobody realistically imagines (short of a massive switch to nuclear power) that electricity generation is going to be "decarbonised" in the foreseeable future. But if high-speed trains are to run at normal speeds, why do we need them at all?



Full story here: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/07/hs2-environmental-report-final-blow-rail-project

Fred1new - 07 Apr 2014 18:44 - 39331 of 81564

Max,

You are not suggesting that another U-turn is on the cards?


Now, that worries me!

MaxK - 07 Apr 2014 19:16 - 39332 of 81564

It's a cock up Fred!


And the Miller burd is still hanging round his neck, I wonder what that's all about?

Fred1new - 07 Apr 2014 19:27 - 39333 of 81564

Rather him than me.

But like for like?

Haystack - 07 Apr 2014 19:38 - 39334 of 81564

It is not Cameron's vanity project. In January 2009, the Labour government established High Speed Two Limited (HS2 Ltd) and Labour had been discussing it for quite a while before that. Labour are still behind and the project. So, in reality it is a Labour vanity project that has been passed on to the Conservatives.

MaxK - 07 Apr 2014 20:12 - 39335 of 81564

So why did Dave pick up the baton and run with it, if it was a loony labour enterprise to start with? He could have ditched it.

As an aside to that, he managed to enrage his natural supporters into the bargain.

Clever politics.

goldfinger - 07 Apr 2014 20:16 - 39336 of 81564

The longer Maria hangs around the less and less Street Cred call me Dave as.

Milliband must be rubbing his hands in glee that Camoron is set in keeping her when 80% plus of the public and big named back benches in the Tory Party wont her out.

The best thing about it though is that the Press arent going to let this one go to sleep, so as long as she stays the more damaging and damaging for Camoron.

Haystack - 07 Apr 2014 20:19 - 39337 of 81564

HS2 looks like a good idea, especially now the new report said it should terminate in Camden Town and not in west London at Wormwood Scrubs. HS is a trend that cannot be ignored.

goldfinger - 07 Apr 2014 20:21 - 39338 of 81564

Max same thing can be said about the ATOS contract on welfare.

IDS was there yesterday morning on BBC saying it was Labours fault because it was a badly drawn up contract, what he didnt say was that he had in 2010 signed up to keeping the contract and extending it without making any changes.

Are this lot really GOVERNING!!!!!

Fred1new - 07 Apr 2014 20:42 - 39339 of 81564

NO

Chris Carson - 07 Apr 2014 21:03 - 39340 of 81564

GF - FFS google as and has, please mate!
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