Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

concur sticky ..... a truly pathetic performance by cameron ..... i agree that you can't have the press running the gov't, but as soon as it was clear there were serious questions to answer, mm should either have been leant on hard to resign or at the very least, to be temporarily suspended

on the other hand, the case of nigel evans casts other pernicious shadows

Alders thats a very good point, especially with Euro MPs which will belong to UKIP given their present momentum.

Do you by any chance think at the next election they may form a coalition with the Tories or is this just press talk?

Cyners seems we agree at last on some political things.

Made me laugh when I posted this tweet on twitter thursday after the deputy Culture minister Millers side kick Fabricant who said she should be sacked got the boot himself aswel.

Michael Fabricant favorited your Tweet
Apr 10: @Mike_Fabricant.... Sorry to see you got the boot, F them all Shaps aswel. Miller had to go. Keep the good work up......................ends

Parliament needs more colourfull characters like him than the boring stero type we normaly get.

Lets face it a bloke who wears one sock pink and the other sock green as to be a bit of a character no matter what his background.

GF and SINNER,


I do hope this B. market settles down and finds a direction. Preferably up.

One of the worst weeks I have had for sometime.

Holdings some longs base on fundies, I hope the B. projections are correct and Russia doesn't walk into Ukraine over the weekend.

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Both, even all, have a good weekend.



Didn't forget labour sins, just prefer to ignore them and suggest they get a better legal representatives.

I was surprised by "result" in Nigel's case, but where was Cameron in the Rebecca's case.


Why wasn't he giving a character reference, or does she believe in that doing so would be equivalent to a death wish.

(I will stand by my aaarrrrrrrrrH!)

Help to buy?



Garage is most expensive in Britain

Disused garage in London sells for £550,000 making it the most expensive in Britain





By Claire Carter, and agencies

2:53PM BST 11 Apr 2014



A disused garage, with cracks in the walls and debris on the floor, has become the most expensive to sell in Britain after it was bought at auction for more than half a million.


The former coach house, which used to house the Mayor of Southwark’s car, exceeded the average house price by more than £150,000 to sell for £550,000.


The empty building in Camberwell, next to an industrial estate in south London, beat the previous record when a garage under the shadow of Harrods sold for £25,000.


The garage, which has vaulted ceilings, a roller steel door and a cobbled drive, was given an estimate of £200,000 by auctioneers Andrew Scott Robertson – but sold for almost triple that amount.


Jeremy Lamb, associate director and auctioneer, said: “It's an empty shell of a building.



more:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/propertynews/10760415/Garage-is-most-expensive-in-Britain.html

Max......and they say their isnt a Housing Bubble. !!!!

Nutters Nutters, we are totaly surrounded by Nutters.

Nutty as fruit cakes.

Hays Hays where are you.

I know your peeking in. he he.

GF,

No he is not.


He is down at party HQ being indoctrinated, learning the new mantras and picking up his begging hat to go around the city begging for donations!


8-)

Ps.

Keep it to yourself.

Fred, had mine since 2008, just a little Elddis Suntor 100. Very good at getting down very narrow lanes and tight spots on Exmoor/Dartmoor where I Like to walk and wild camp, but anywhere off the main roads and see the villages and countryside we by-pass in normal life. In short, walk, talk, coffee's and pub lunches.

Fred, on looking at some pics of your van........ think you'd get mine in the garage. lol

Baler,

When I retired in 97 I had not had a holiday for 20 years excluding a few week ends fishing.

I had also promised myself when I was hitch hiking around France in the 60s that I would return and eat at some of the restaurants I couldn't afford to read the menu at when I was there.

When I returned, I found that age had tightened my pockets and improved my own cooking!

I bought the Allegro and spent 5-6 years on and off Wild Camping, and occasionally staying at camp sites when on the hoof at Lisbon Barcelona and Paris etc. and my wife or other members of the family had flown out to tell me that it was safe to come home. 8-)

One of the most enjoyable periods of my life.

Met all sorts of foreigners and found them quite human, a bit like the English.

Sadly, unless my grand children say "please keep the van" this is probably my last year.

Enjoy you wild camping.

France and Portugal are generally tolerant, but Spain a little less so.

Some of the camping sites are beautiful.

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apropos the above, "have i got news for you" last night was very funny ..... i know it was good exposure for nf, and also a good bit of knock-about fun, but i'm not sure that he enhanced his image at all

Hillsborough Leppings Lane end
The specific depiction of Liverpool fans in the Leppings Lane end as inhuman beasts begs questions Photo: PA
Matthew Norman By Matthew Norman7:49PM BST 11 Apr 2014
In death, the victims of Hillsborough never walk alone, and so it is that this weekend we honour their memory with delayed kick-offs, impeccably observed minutes of silence and memories of our own.
Yet if the notion of paying respect to the 96 Liverpool fans crushed to death during the abandoned FA Cup semi-final in Sheffield seems obvious, it was not always so. One cannot mark the 25th anniversary merely by empathising with the dead and injured, their families and friends, and those Liverpool FC employees who, as Alan Hansen movingly recalled on our sports pages this week, remain traumatised to this day.
Properly honouring the victims also demands we remember how they were smeared and ask why those smears, for all their transparent absurdity, were so blithely accepted for so long.

Hillsborough was the most predictable disaster imaginable. In 1981, I was there to see Spurs play Wolves in another Cup semi-final when several hundred fans spilled out of the overcrowded Leppings Lane end and were led to safety. Thirty-eight people suffered cracked ribs, broken limbs and so on. The police, who thought that the lack of fatalities was pure luck, suggested safety precautions be taken. None were.
That staggering complacency was born in part of the generic perception, in that Eighties heyday of hooliganism, of football fans as psychotic cattle to be herded into and out of pens, and just not worth the effort and expense of adequately protecting.
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Yet the specific depiction of Liverpool fans in the Leppings Lane end as inhuman beasts begs questions. Would it have been meted out to people from another city, and if it had been would anyone sane have believed it? Had the victims been from Bristol, Brighton, Newcastle or Norwich, would the perception that many fans were drunk, and stormed the ground without tickets – that some stole from the pockets of the dead and dying, and others urinated on officers as they tried to help the stricken – have taken more than two decades categorically to be debunked?
That kind of propaganda is generally reserved for enemy armies. And yet when applied to fellow citizens who had suffered unconscionable horror, it was widely believed. How could a quasi blood libel on an entire city take such hold on the national consciousness? Why was the howling grief of Liverpool dismissed as yet more tiresome whingeing from “self-pity city”? By what reckoning had Liverpudlians come to be viewed as innately less human than the rest of us?
The idea of Liverpool as an enclave of benefits scrounging, petty crime and violence did not emerge from a vacuum. What for a while during the Victorian era was the planet’s richest city had long since been shrunken and impoverished by the callous march of industrial history, and regarded as a leech on the nation’s blood.
In the Eighties, when Mrs Thatcher dismissed Michael Heseltine’s splendid drive for regeneration as a self-serving public relations stunt, the screeching hysteria of Derek Hatton and Militant fed into the image. So did the crazed Yosser Hughes approaching strangers with: “I could do that. Gissa job.” So did Carla Lane’s sitcom Bread which, however fondly, painted the archetypal Scouser as a scally driven only to find ever more creative ways of defrauding the welfare state. Old-school club comics routinely told their audiences that they went to Liverpool once a year on holiday “to visit me bleedin’ hub caps”.
In 1985, the violence of some Liverpool fans contributed to the Heysel Stadium disaster. The thuggery, however nasty, was no worse than that perpetrated on countless other European football nights by followers of other clubs. The consequences were, however, and reinforced the stereotype that permitted Hillsborough’s innocents to be portrayed as callous criminals.
The lessons of Hillsborough go far beyond those learnt long ago about how safely to police a sports stadium. The lesson that perhaps will never be learnt is that at heart other people are not so different from us. Whether they follow other creeds or have joined us from foreign lands, or whether they come from a proud city on the Mersey that looks out towards the New World, they have the same feelings and sensibilities. They are numbed with fear and shock when they see their brethren lying dead and dying. They do not reach into the back pocket of a corpse for a tenner, or empty their bladders over coppers. They weep and grieve inconsolably for friends and neighbours, and for strangers with whom they share a postcode and the love of a football club. They – just like Mr Hansen, Kenny Dalglish and other Liverpool FC legends whose unflinching, unfading commitment to offer solace to the survivors of Hillsborough has been so humbling to those of us looking on from afar – never entirely recover. They are united with us all in this perplexing, painful business of being human.
The greatest tragedy of Hillsborough is that so many needlessly died. The second greatest, and also worth remembering over the days ahead, is that so many of us sacrificed a part of our humanity by failing for so long to recognise theirs.


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goldfinger

Do you by any chance think at the next election they may form a coalition with the Tories

How many seats would they need ? Can't see them getting that many.

Farage done well on "Have I Got News 4u ", considering the amount of piss take he had to put up with, think he came over very well, done a lot for his image as a honest stright talking party leader.

"The Trip to Italy" A very funny relaxing program to watch, with the very talented witty pair of Steve Coogan & Rob Brydon .

Those tossers on AOL/HUFF post , have got the headline that FARAGE IS TORN TO SHREDS on Have I Got News

He wasn't torn to shreds, but he was made to look a buffoon. He laughed along with the panelists, but they were laughing at him and not with him. The object was to make him look like a figure of fun and ridiculous; it was successful. Surely no one could take him seriously after that performance. I detect an underlying steak of nastiness in him. When he was at public school, one of the teachers wrote to the headmaster complaining that he should not be made a prefect as he had fascist views. He used to shout racist abuse at some pupils and had marched through the streets with some supporters singing Nazi songs. The letter is viewable on the internet.

i don't really agree with either of you about NF's imaging on hign4u ..... however, while NF probably didn't do himself any harm, any more than boris does when compering, i don't think it remotely enhanced his image as a serious politician, let alone statesman

What a novel idea.....



Unthinkable? Ministers who know their stuff

If practical experience were made a precondition for ministerial appointment, politicians might regain what they crave most of all – respect


Editorial


The Guardian, Friday 11 April 2014 22.36 BST

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/11/unthinkable-ministers-who-know-their-stuff


The former children's laureate Michael Rosen could be on to something. Mr Rosen's view that the new culture secretary Sajid Javid ought to be knowledgeable about culture has been mocked.

It may seem obvious for condescending insiders to dismiss such suggestions as naive. A lot of people, though, will think Mr Rosen's view is common sense. What is wrong with knowing your field? No one wants a gifted amateur, still less an ungifted one, to conduct hospital operations, to give university lectures, to defend murder suspects or to be placed in charge of a nuclear submarine. Much better, surely, to give such jobs to people who know what they are doing. So why ignore that same rule in government? On that basis, there may even be an entire government-in-waiting on the back benches at Westminster consisting of people who actually know their business. Would a cabinet that fielded, for example, Conservative GP Dr Sarah Wollaston as health secretary, Labour benefits expert Kate Green at work and pensions, Lib Dem barrister Sir Menzies Campbell as justice minister, ex-diplomat Rory Stewart as foreign secretary, former lecturer Barry Sheerman at education, former parachute regiment officer Dan Jarvis at defence or successful entrepreneur Margot James as business secretary be significantly more lightweight than the current team? If practical experience were made a precondition for ministerial appointment, politicians might regain what, with the exception of office, they crave most of all – respect.

The are far too many posts to be filled to find experts on the subject matter amongst the MPs. It is even more difficult when you consider that the person has to be capable of performing as a minister. In a particular ministry there are experts who do most of the work.