Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

One of the country's greatest ever Prime Ministers liked a tipple or two.

I'm thinking of Winston Churchill.

His liver lasted out too.

greatest ever Prime Ministers in war time , but in peace time also ? I don't know his record of running the country after the war , but have read that he was not outstanding.

Ryan Giggs will be 'doing a Winston Churchill' at around 5:20pm or so tonight.

At very important times, neither NF, WC or RG bother with booze. They keep a clear head.

did anyone watch Have I Got News for You last night?
very funny and scurrilous as usual, one of the highlights being NF being interviewed about his german-born PA - aka his wife

The public can see that there is a big effort by the main partys and their backer's in the media to discredit UKIP , and i think its going to backfire on them.

Britain's Poles sign up to Ukip: The party branded ‘racist and anti-Europe’

ANTI-Europe party Ukip has been recruiting new members – from Poland.

BE AFRAID OF ANYBODY DIFFERENT TO YOUR DEAR LEADER!

http://theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php

Post your results , they should be very interesting

Poll shows Ukip lead ahead of vote




1 minute ago | By Press Association



Ukip has surged into the lead in the European election contest despite a bruising week of controversies, according to a poll.

Nigel Farage's party recorded 31% support in YouGov research for the Sunday Times, three points ahead of Labour, with the Tories languishing in third on 19%.

It is the first time the company has given Ukip an outright advantage in the race, with ballots due to be cast in less than a month.

The results are in line with a ComRes poll for the Sunday Mirror and Independent on Sunday last month, which put Ukip on 30%, Labour on 28%, and David Cameron's party on 21%.

The findings suggest Mr Farage has not sustained significant damage from recent furores over his expenses, "racist" posters, criticism of misleading campaign literature, and dubious comments from activists.



More: http://news.uk.msn.com/poll-shows-ukip-lead-ahead-of-vote-1

I will believe it when I see it. People often say that they will vote this way and that and then don't. When the pols ask those who say they will definitely vote, the results are often different. It is interesting to see that it is just the UKIP voters who don't think their posters are racist. That pretty much shows that UKIP had hoovered up all the racist voters.

http://news.sky.com/story/1250095/ukip-member-lenny-henry-should-leave-britain

A local election UKIP candidate has suggested that British comedian Lenny Henry should emigrate to a "black country".

Enfield candidate William Henwood was responding to recent comments made by Henry that there was a poor representation of ethnic minorities on British television.

On his Twitter account, he tweeted: "He should emigrate to a black country. He does not have to live with whites."

In a statement, UKIP insisted the party was "non-racist, non-sectarian" and that "any comments made by members that fail to uphold these values will be duly investigated and acted upon".

Mr Henwood is not the only candidate to have extreme views revealed in the past week since the party's manifesto was launched.

UKIP Camden candidate Magnus Nielsen claimed that 70% of UK mosques had been "taken over" by "fundamentalists".

According to his Facebook page, he said: "Islam is organised crime under religious camouflage. Any Muslim who is not involved in organised crime is not a 'true believer', practising Islam as Mohammed commanded."

The people are cheesed off with dave, ed and nick, and they don't believe a word that comes out of their mouths.

And that's the real problem Haystack!


"The findings suggest Mr Farage has not sustained significant damage from recent furores over his expenses, "racist" posters, criticism of misleading campaign literature, and dubious comments from activists."

Farage's appeal is to the anti immigration sentiment that is an undercurrent these days. The 'little Englander' attitude has gained in prominence due to economic problems. If there was a boom and full employment, very few people would care about immigration and UKIP would be dead in the water. I don't think it has anything to do with the public's view of the leaders of the main parties. Farage is a rabble rouser in the same tradition of all extreme one policy parties. It is no coincidence that the right wing fringe parties are on the rise across the world at a time of ecenomi problems. UKIP are just opportunists with a hidden nasty agenda,

You have no coherent answers, do you Haystack?

All you can do is drag out the usual smear tactics and hope for the best.

There are no answers. It is a fringe party with some support. I have seen it before with several parties that had a lot of support and then vanished again. This another one policy party and looks little different from the previous incarnations. They just seem to be better at hiding their underlying racism.

UKIP is not a party. It is a political pressure group..

You don't need to smear them, they manage that very well themselves. It is a party for unrealistic people to support.

The tory party is a rabble without a leader.


Their political ideology is out of date!

It is kick Cameron time!

a thumping win for ukip in the eu elections would come as no surprise even if they seem to do bugger all there once elected - but then nor do any of the others

the local elections should also see ukip doing well

the great unknown is how that will reflect in general election results, as come the crunch, much of ukip's support could easily dissolve

HS2 should get voted through tomorrow. There are a few Conservative rebels but Labour have said they will vote with the government.

new treasury lady or whatever she is, is certainly anti
she reckons it isn't economic sense

I am more inclined towards the project than I was, once I was reminded that this is infrastructure to last the next 100/150 years