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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 23 Jun 2014 21:42 - 42761 of 81564

PS.

Always thought of him as tory mole planted in the Labour party.

goldfinger - 23 Jun 2014 21:50 - 42762 of 81564

Me too.

Hays would be applauding Blair if he was a Tory, corrupt as he is.

Cynic too.

Haystack - 23 Jun 2014 22:01 - 42763 of 81564

It is not relevant which party he is from.

MaxK - 23 Jun 2014 22:03 - 42764 of 81564

I'm a tory (proper one), and I detest the man...snake oil salesman of the first order.

Stan - 23 Jun 2014 23:07 - 42765 of 81564

Tory Blair?.. now where shall I start.

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 08:08 - 42766 of 81564

Max.

I thought the only proper tory was ----!


8-)

Haze,

I thought Blair demonstrated typical true tory values!


I know he wasn't an etonian, but certainly appears to the description given of the present cabinet:

Etonians,’ said Fraser, ‘are the ultimate pragmatists, totally free of any ideology. Other than the means of getting and gaining power, no conspicuous motives inspire them. It’s not clear that Etonian politicians really believe in much except themselves


Of course I would not agree with the description.

MaxK - 24 Jun 2014 08:26 - 42767 of 81564

I would Stan, but I suspect it applies to all the main runners and riders.

goldfinger - 24 Jun 2014 08:31 - 42768 of 81564

Typicaly just look after themselves, yep that sounds about right about Etonians and Public school Boys.

Thugs aswel, smashing up coffee bars, having bun fights etc etc.

No respect for other people or the law in general.

Was M Fabricant a public school boy??????

goldfinger - 24 Jun 2014 08:46 - 42769 of 81564

he he, corker off twitter here below........

Fred Boycott ‏@FredBoycott
We should play Costa Rica at cricket and Sri Lanka at football. That would give us an outside chance of winning one of the games.

MaxK - 24 Jun 2014 09:18 - 42770 of 81564

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 09:22 - 42771 of 81564

Shall he bend over backwards!


Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 09:26 - 42772 of 81564

I wonder when the Cons discovered the North of England.

Perhaps, they think that London may be lonely when Uk is kicked out of EU and financial services move to Brussels.

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 09:31 - 42773 of 81564

Or the following.

But remember the tories couldn't even shoot to cull "badgers" even when they own the press.

ExecLine - 24 Jun 2014 10:19 - 42774 of 81564

Why Nigel Farage and UKIP are going to win a hell of a lot more votes than you might now think:

New EU laws ruining Britain

Stan - 24 Jun 2014 10:23 - 42775 of 81564

Oh for pete's sake E/L .. thats from the Express -):

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 10:35 - 42776 of 81564

The world press and some Governments are condemning the Egyptians courts and legal system for the “treatment” of their journalists who “exposed” the actions of the administration.

Rightly so, I think.

Whether the condemnation will be gainful is debatable.

But, Julian Paul Assange are Edward Snowden are also responsible for “exposures of state or government” illegal actions and abuses of laws of various states, but are under the threat from USA and UK “legal” systems and there is no government condemnation.

This strikes me as double standards.

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 10:49 - 42777 of 81564

Exec,


This coalition government has done more harm to this country than the EU legislation!

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The reasons for import licencing of timber is to try and limit "movement" of disease which denudes forestry.

The ferret rules may be in the same genre of reasoning, or "animal care".

If the rules or regulations are irrelevant or no longer necessary, change the rules within the regulation body by being active members.

But, first concentrate change some of the cross boundary Tax Dodging rules and regulations.

Also, tighten up on the expenses of MPs, MEPs and "administrations costs" of UK and EU and palming out of contracts.

goldfinger - 24 Jun 2014 11:11 - 42778 of 81564

The single most devastating reason NOT to vote Tory or Lib Dem at the next election

23
Monday
Jun 2014
Posted by Tom Pride in hopeless naivety

The NHS has been severely damaged by the coalition government over the last 4 years.

But don’t just take my word for that.

Dr Mark Porter, the head of the BMA, thinks so too. That’s not just some lefty anti-government think-tank – that’s the British Medical Association, which represents 153,000 doctors, GPs and other medical specialists and staff across the country.

Dr Porter gave a devastating speech today to the BMA Annual Representatives Meeting in which he astonishingly said the coalition government must “face up to the damage that they have done” to the NHS.

In his dramatic speech, Dr Porter specifically listed the ways that the NHS has been damaged over the last 4 years by the Tories and the Liberal Democrats:

The coalition government have imposed policies that “force us to do the absolute opposite of what our patients need”.
The coalition government have made cuts to frontline services in the NHS that “eat away at the fabric of care and destroy innovation”.
The coalition government have “imposed in England a new NHS without evidence, without mandate and without support”.
The coalition government have spent “at least £1.6 billion” implementing their top-down reforms to the NHS which continue to “consume the energies of thousands of NHS staff who never even wanted it, just to stop it unravelling”.
Since the coalition government passed their NHS reforms, there has been “a bumper year for the multinationals”- especially for their “armies of lawyers and accountants who find the curative so lucrative”.
The coalition government - through their “misguided legislation” – have been “doing the exact opposite” of “working to make it better for patients”.
NHS commissioning managers “are being driven to distraction by the madness of the market”.
The coalition government’s agenda on the NHS is “to override any investment, suppress any incentive, erode any service, in the single interest of bleeding every penny it can out of the system”.
The coalition government have spent billions on “fragmenting care by forcing the NHS to open up to private bidders” and on “droves of management consultants with their pointless flipcharts”.
The coalition government have wasted money on “untested policies, not hard-working public servants”.
There has been a chronic lack of investment in “emergency medicine, in general practice, in public health, in mental health, across the NHS”.
The coalition government’s “blanket refusal to invest” is “economic illiteracy”.
There have been “four years of waste and cuts and missed opportunities”.
And finally this gem:

The only single cause for celebration about the coalition government’s reforms of the NHS is “that most of it doesn’t apply in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland”.
So there you have it – straight from the horse’s mouth.

The Tories and the Lib Dems have done their best to destroy the NHS in England over the last 4 years.

So if you know anyone who still needs a reason not to vote for either of the coalition parties at the next election?

Tell them to take their pick from any of the above.

.

You can see the full transcript of Dr Porter’s speech here:

BMA Chair of Council Dr Mark Porter’s Speech

Haystack - 24 Jun 2014 11:18 - 42779 of 81564

The BMA is effectively the doctors' trade union. They hate change and rarely have anything sensible to say.

Stan - 24 Jun 2014 11:29 - 42780 of 81564

Bit like you then.
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