Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Yeah yeah lets open the poor house again, lets send kids up chimneys and down drains , lets bring the whip back and the gallows.

Ohh I give up until you have the decency to answer my question.

Manners dont cost anything.

what is your question I will answer always do a yes or no

TANKER - 17 Jul 2014 15:25 - 43880 of 43883

ever one unemployed for over 6 months should be sent to the council to do local cleaning paths old peoples gardens and loads more tasks.....................ends

so what are you going to do with the unemployed workers from the council that your plan above will create??????????????????????????????????????????

43879

TANKER question 43879 and 43880.......now come on be quick her indoors is wanting a seeing to. It must be this heat.

sticks - there's plenty of cleaning and general maintenance jobs of one variety or another which local councils never get round to doing or do not have the manpower for it

They dont here. And if they didnt do it their would be hell on.

Have you ever wondered why you pay your Council Tax.

By the way are you sure TANKER isnt your brother or cousin.

TANKER answer the questions.

what is your question gold .

has for cleaning have never seen a path cleaned only in shopping centres if your paths are cleaned its a miracle .
I would do anything to get a job when I was young the uk is a filthy place council do not have enough man power so use the unemployed till they find a job
its has simple as that get them out of bed and sign on ever day and clock off .
perhaps then they will look for work .
the people who want a job would not object .

has for IDS some one had to take up the gauntlet it is ut of control benefits must be cut to no more a week than the old age pension max

hope that helps you gold

Pensioners got richer during recession, while young were hardest hit

A stark generation gap on jobs and earnings has opened up in recent years as “twenty somethings” were hit hardest by the recession but pensioners were protected from it.

In a report published today, the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) said that the income of young adults had fallen by much more than any other age group, and their employment rate had dropped while the proportion of older adults in work remained steady.

Although employment rates among young adults fell in previous recessions, the crucial difference this time was that in-work rates for other age groups were remarkably stable and that young adults were “the most acutely affected by some distance” by the very sharp falls in pay, said the IFS.



Meanwhile, the incomes of pensioners continued to grow and overtook those of working-age households in 2009–10 for the first time since records began in 1961. By 2012-13, pensioner incomes were 5 per cent higher, after being 5 per cent lower when the recession began.

The findings will increase the pressure on the Government to ensure a “fair recovery” in which young adults can “catch up”. Some Coalition ministers are worried about a backlash from younger voters at next year’s general election.

George Osborne, the Chancellor, wooed the “grey vote” in his March Budget with a shake-up of pensions and this group is much more likely to vote than young adults. The latest ComRes survey for The Independent shows that only one in four 18-24 year-olds and 41 per cent of 25-34 year-olds are “absolutely certain to vote” next year. In contrast, 52 per cent of 55-64 year-olds and 66 per cent of those aged 65 and over are “absolutely certain to vote.”

According to the IFS, between the 2007-8 and 2013-14 financial years, the mid-point on the household income scale of 22-30 year-olds fell by 13 per cent, while for 31-59 year-olds it dropped by only 7 per cent and for those aged 60 and over it remained steady.

The squeeze on the “twenty somethings” would have been even worse if more than a quarter of them did not still live with their parents – a proportion which has risen by 7 per cent since 2005-06. Those living at home saw their household income drop by 8 per cent; without their parents’ incomes, the fall would have been 17 per cent.

The employment rate for 22 to 30-year-olds fell by four percentage points, while remaining unchanged for 31 to 59-year-olds. Among those in work, real median pay (before tax) fell by 15 per cent among 22-30 year-olds, and by 6 per cent for 31- to 59-year-olds.

“Young adults have borne the brunt of the recession,” said Jonathan Cribb, a research economist at the IFS and an author of the report. “Pay, employment and incomes have all been hit hardest for those in their twenties. A crucial question is whether this difficult start will do lasting damage to their employment and earnings prospects”.

Chris Goulden, head of poverty research at the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, which funded the study, said: “Over the past year young people aged between 22 –30 in particular have fared the worst, seeing the sharpest rise of those now living in poverty. This is in contrast to pensioners, who the IFS say face relatively favourable conditions. The progress in reducing pensioner poverty shows what can be done with sustained effort - a principle that must apply across all age groups.”

The IFS said that home ownership among 25 year-olds has halved in 20 years: 21 per cent of those born in the mid-1980s owned a home at this age, compared with 34 per cent of those born in the mid-1970s cohort and 45 per cent in the mid-1960s.

For the population as a whole, the recession had different impacts across the UK. Comparing 2007–08 to 2009–10 with 2010–11 to 2012–13, real falls in median income range from 8 per cent in Northern Ireland to 2 per cent in the East Midlands. After housing costs, London saw the joint-biggest fall (with Northern Ireland). The IFS found no clear relationship across the country between pre-crisis income levels and income changes since the recession, saying there was no clear North-South divide.

Catherine McKinnell, a shadow Treasury minister, said: “While David Cameron denies there is a cost-of-living crisis these figures show people have seen a substantial fall in their income since 2010. It is worrying that the IFS expects child poverty – which fell when Labour was in government – to rise under the Tories.”

But an aide to Mr Osborne said: “This shows just how hard Labour's Great Recession hit young people and why it’s vital we keep working through our long term economic plan which is cutting the deficit, creating jobs and equipping people with the skills they need for the future".

What is your question GOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bloody hell how many more times.

NO NO NO NO I wont converse with you now until you answer my 2 questions.

TANKER YOU ARE SANCTIONED

load of bollocks the old age pension is £113 a week for millions or less then topped up to £ 130 a week min wage over £ 250 a week
those are facts not bloody fiction .

if posters do not like facts then its pointless to post .

Yep PENSIONERS bleeding the country dry.

They have loads of money, free bus passes, and get TV for nothing, I wish I could get SKY for nothing.

They get a £300 pound xmas bonus and spend it getting pissed down the pub but it should be for the gas fire.

And a £10 giro for a bottle of Whiskey.

They get PENSIONER RATES with plumbers, joiners, and Electricians.

In fish shops they can get smaller portions at cheaper prices.

They get their hair cut for next to nothing.

Theyhave special clubs and pay nowt and get a big dinner every day with a big pudding aswel.

They get free tea and coffee in the Hospitals and free prescriptions.

Make no wonder this country is skint its the pensioners robbing us blind that are doing it, they caused the deficit and the recession.

Gf you havn't been feeding her indoors the banana skins by any chance , if so stop doing it ,i tried it they will wear you out .

Aye gf, pensioners eh? Shoot the bastards! God help you if you grow old. Clueless doesn't cover it.

LOL Jimmy she got fed up waiting while I was bollocking sorry arguing with TANKER. Shes gone off down the gym sulking.

Bloody pensioners, root of all problems in this country.

Chris Chris even you can see through my post above surely.......if not make no wonder you watch Everton....... snore.

This is amazing during my time with the DSS only a few over 45 worked for them. A complete change now. Must be because they are paying pensioner rates.


Young? Unemployed? Don’t Expect A Job At The DWP
Posted on July 14, 2014 by johnny void | 23 comments

mcvey1“I have always said that I will do everything I can to help equip young people with the skills they need to get their foot on the ladder – everything I can to encourage employers to open their doors to young people – and everything I can to support the youth of today to get on in life.” Esther McVey responding to employment statistics February 2014

Despite endless government initiatives aimed at bringing down youth unemployment, just 1% of staff at the DWP are under 25 in a workforce that numbers almost 100,000.

The shocking admission comes in the department’s annual equality report which also shows that only 4.3% of DWP workers are between the ages of 25 and 29. These figures come despite the Employment Minister Esther McVey repeatedly trying to tell us that young unemployed people are on of her ‘key concerns’. Turns out she’s far more concerned about forcing young people to work in Poundland for no pay then she is about using her department to actually give people a real job.

Whilst anyone under 25 who wants to work at the Jobcentre should probably spend some time experimenting with drugs for a while first, these are damning statistics for a government that pretends to care about youth unemployment. The truth is that just like every other grasping employer, the DWP has no interest in providing any genuine help for young people to get started in a career. Why would they, when they can staff their offices with young people on unpaid ‘work experience’ instead of actually paying them wages.

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LOL he he....ohh so true......

Whilst anyone under 25 who wants to work at the Jobcentre should probably spend some time experimenting with drugs for a while first,

you're relatively young sticky, for it's only comparatively recently that the benefits of age + experience have been recognised ...... older people also don't need maternity/paternity leave and may also be very happy to work part time if that's what suits the employer ..... they are also less likely to flit from job to job