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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

spitfire43 - 08 Dec 2007 15:03 - 421 of 21973

would think fed will cut by 1/4 which I guess is already in to prices, if they cut by 1/2 it could be taken as a signal that the economy is heading for real trouble, and index could fall very rapidly indeed.

will wait for downward momentum first before going short, I appreciate I will never catch the top. But will still go long if that is the trend on the day.

Check the Rightmove housing data due for release Monday morning, I think normally very early release. Could dictate the mood of the morning.

And thanks falcothou for weather reports for Golfers, my course is already becoming boggy in places, may need to play in wellies soon. But not in the rain for me.

Falcothou - 08 Dec 2007 18:15 - 422 of 21973

This is one of my favourites http://www.meteonet.nl/aktueel/brackall.htm
shows the 965 low that is going to hit tomorrow. Of course there's very little wind in the eye of the storm and the extreme low pressure allows the air to rise easily, not that I'm drawing any comparisons with the DOW or anything!

steveo - 10 Dec 2007 08:27 - 423 of 21973

I think dow will struggle to hit 13950, but am going to wait till fed decision.

spitfire43 - 10 Dec 2007 18:07 - 424 of 21973

Dow is up 108 at moment, if interest rates are lowered 1/4 point would expect to see a pullback like the FTSE on Thursday. but 13950 might be reached after on a weak christmas rally.

I notice that last week the FTSE perform very much same as DOW today, it was up 89 points by 09:30 and carried rising all day to finnish 178 up.

steveo - 11 Dec 2007 08:21 - 425 of 21973

Tom Stevenson in telegraph has contrarian view based on his recent trip to selfridges, reckons just as much chance of market falling 10-20% as there us of it rising 50-60%, based on lehmans 2008 equity market

Here is link :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/12/11/ccinv111.xml

Personally think he's misguided, my local (less upmarket, more sub-prime really)shopping centre on saturday had alot of people but not many bags.

Time will tell, be interesting tonight whatever the decision

spitfire43 - 11 Dec 2007 09:45 - 426 of 21973

I like to hear contrarian views, but the percentages he quotes are huge on the upside. ( Guess thats why it's called contrarian )

ftse today seems to want to head south, but I can't decide yet if this will continue it's to early. Hopefully another hour and we might see a clearer picture. I will probably wait for the feds decision before trading.

HARRYCAT - 11 Dec 2007 10:16 - 427 of 21973

Sideways movement until FED decision, imo. Trouble is the market is hoping for .5% cut but is expecting .25% cut. The .25% is meant to have already been factored in, but the market will be disappointed if they don't get .5%. So........unless the decision is .5% then there may be little movement in the DOW. It would certainly throw a cat amongst the pigeons if they decided on 'No change', but I think .25% is most likely. Maybe best to sit tight until the announcement.

spitfire43 - 11 Dec 2007 10:58 - 428 of 21973

short at 6532 on ftse

only a smallish position, hopefully correct call ?

spitfire43 - 11 Dec 2007 11:09 - 429 of 21973

ps - before I traded I taped my list of Golden rules above computer. Should stop me doing anything stupid.

HARRYCAT - 11 Dec 2007 11:57 - 430 of 21973

I thought someone once said "Rules are made to be broken".
And also, while I am on the subject of quotations, there is quite a good one in Shares Mag this week: " People often cite the tax advantages of spread betting, but you can be assured that if people generally made money from betting, then the Chancellor would tax it." Hope you are making a living from it, spit!

spitfire43 - 11 Dec 2007 12:06 - 431 of 21973

stopped out at 6552 for 20 point loss,

not making a living with this, but only placing small positions while learning, still have alot to to learn.

steveo - 11 Dec 2007 13:29 - 432 of 21973

Also from my neck of the woods, 3 local and not insubstantial developers have gone to the wall through oversupply of 2 bed flats in the last month as Nat-west manager got carried away and bosses found out and called in loans, several of them owing substantial sums to other contractors, another contact of mine has stock overhang for a year now and is not developing any further until they shift.

Add in our own inflated buy to let crowds reducing yields and locally at least things are turning for the worst, this is an area where we have average house price of 260k and average earnings of 22k, quite a multiple, isn't it.

There can be little doubt in my mind that things will turn down, we will probably follow in US footsteps as all the data would suggest significant slow down.


Have entered a short on dow to open at 13850 for feb, if it goes up significantly before fed decision then will move it on

steveo - 11 Dec 2007 15:47 - 433 of 21973

moved short to current level and opened at 13720 with tight stop, looking bearish to me, will re-evaluate at 7pm when next free to look at the screen.

BigTed - 11 Dec 2007 21:21 - 434 of 21973

so, only a quarter % cut then... lets bring on the next correction! I'm ready...

HARRYCAT - 12 Dec 2007 09:17 - 435 of 21973

DOW & NIKKEI both down overnight.
I imagine you shorters are riding the FTSE down as well?
U.S. trade balance & Treasury budget figures out today, with jobless claims & money supply figures out tomorrow. Shorting all the way to the weekend on the cards???

steveo - 12 Dec 2007 09:38 - 436 of 21973

Sticking with it at the moment, ftse struggling to get to 6500, if there's profit taking in the miners soon plus a bit of mixed or ominous data, which is more likely than not, then we'll be heading south again.

As I write this it makes a good attempt.

HARRYCAT - 12 Dec 2007 10:06 - 437 of 21973

DOW futures currently +95, so don't take my word for it that shorting is the way to go!

steveo - 12 Dec 2007 13:09 - 438 of 21973

Am looking at a long term short, not day trading as I am often away from my screen for prolonged periods so daily volatility, would scupper me more often than not.

steveo - 12 Dec 2007 22:35 - 439 of 21973

After such a volatile day on dow am considering sticking to stocks!!! Not good for the nerves.

cynic - 13 Dec 2007 07:00 - 440 of 21973

short SOLA then
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