Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Where do they think the money will ultimately come from?




Local councils propose 'Tesco tax' on large supermarkets to raise revenue

Derby city council leads calls for levy of up to 8.5% on large retail outlets, with money to be reinvested in local community


Shane Hickey


theguardian.com, Saturday 26 July 2014 11.26 BST


Local councils have asked the government to give them new powers to tax large supermarkets under a system similar to that already in place in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

A group of 20 local councils have backed what has been dubbed a "Tesco tax" in order to increase revenues which they say would be invested in the local community.

Derby city council has called for the right to impose a levy on large supermarkets, which it says could earn the local authority an estimated £2m a year.

The BBC reports that anorther 19 local authorities are in favour of the tax.



More: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/26/local-councils-tesco-tax-large-supermarkets-increase-revenues

Ober Ik heb Eels in mijn soep.

Wheres MAX with is thought for the night??????

Look forward to it.

Update - Labour lead at 1
by YouGov in Political Trackers and Politics
Sun July 27, 2014 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 25th July - Con 35%, Lab 36%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%;

What does that poll translate into probable seat numbers?

One ahead is probably a small majority for Labour or a hung parliament. The interesting part of the polls is that UKIP are stuck at a level that gives them no seats. If UKIP stays at this level then it will become clear to the public that no MPs is a wasted vote. Many commentators have said that they expect their vote to collapse in the GE. The factor that may decide the election is where will those votes go when they abandon UKIP.

Fair enough.

Any idea what 8% will do the limp/dims?

The Libs will still do well. It is for the same reasons that UKIP will do badly. The polls are an indication of the country wide average. The figures for UKIP do not give enough support for MPs on average. UKIP have no traditional support in specific seats. They have very little infrastructure in the constituencies. Their party machinery is almost non existent.

The Libs are very well organised at a local level. They have lists of people promising to vote Lib on the day. The local party goes out and reminds those people to vote and even takes them to the polls. I used to do that when I campaigned for them years ago. The Libs have traditional seats and their support is contained in specific seats. They can get large falls in support across the country and lose few seats.

The reason for the above is first past the post system we have. If there was proportional voting then UKIP would get a large number of seats and the Libs would get very few.

There is a precedent for this problem. Their was a breakaway group that left Labour in 1981. They called themselves the SDP (Social Democratic Party). They were hugely popular and fought several elections including one jointly with the Libs. The electoral system in the UK prevented them from getting anywhere. This was even though they started out with several MPs when they left Labour. They finally admitted defeat in 1988 and merged with the Libs, which is why the Liberal Party is now called the Liberal Democratic Party.

A depressing stastic for UKIP is that the SDP polled over 50% in late 1981. In the 1983 election the SDP got just 6 MPs.

Max dont listen to that waffle from Hays, he hasnt a clue. From the poll of polls after todays poll Labour will have a majority of 44 seats.

What you do look for and this is key how the marginals are going and last week Ashcrofts poll showed Labour with an increasing 8% lead.

How on earth Hays thinks the UKIP vote is falling whilst the polls show it is standing steady, God knows.

He makes it up as he goes along.

Still 9 months Hays to the GE.

ps, Hays says UKIP wont get a single seat!!!!!!!!!!!! oh yes Hays so what about Nigel himself.

Id say thats a 100% certainty.

gf

You are wrong as usual. The web site you get the majority from is

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

If you look carefully, you will see that it hasn't been updated since 23 July. It doesn't even show Friday's lead of 3 and not today of 1. Their methodology doesn't take account of of specific seats. It just uses an overall average, which I have shown above is wrong.

The state and its spending needs shrinking back.

Talking crap again Hays, I look at that site every day and it was updated the majority figure today. It was a majority of 23 mid week (friday). In fact you say it hasnt been updated since 23rd of July whats this then......................

YouGov/Sunday Times – CON 35, LAB 36, LD 8, UKIP 13
27 JUL 2014


Heres Hays post so that he cant wriggle out of this one as per norm.......

Haystack - 27 Jul 2014 15:11 - 44355 of 44356

gf

You are wrong as usual. The web site you get the majority from is

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

If you look carefully, you will see that it hasn't been updated since 23 July. It doesn't even show Friday's lead of 3 and not today of 1. Their methodology doesn't take account of of specific seats. It just uses an overall average, which I have shown above is wrong........................................ENDS

Hays you really need to be carefull whith those drugs you are taking, are they the same ones IDS takes??????????????? he tells a lot of porkies aswel.

Site below........

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

Yes Hays caught out again how anybody can trust you......................well.

I think Max knew that anyway.

Your eyesight is failing you again. If you look down the right hand side you will see the last figures in the overall number is 23 July. They only update the headline figure every few days. It has been 44 since Wednesday. Sometimes they don't update it for more than a week at a time.

This is the most recent item at the top of the table

23 Jul 34 38 8 12 Lab +4

READ YOUR POST ABOVE. 44335.

It was 23 Friday.

Youve been caught out, just like on advfn.

Your taking after the Tory Cheats and liars

This what I wrote

"If you look carefully, you will see that it hasn't been updated since 23 July. It doesn't even show Friday's lead of 3 and not today of 1."

Wednesday was 23 July. It is 27 July today!