Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

More than 1,000 lawyers across the UK have signed a letter addressed to Prime Minister David Cameron insisting that last month's vote to leave the European Union is not legally binding.

In the open letter published in the Independent, barristers argued that the referendum result is merely "advisory" and that primary legislation will be required before Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty – the two-year process to take Britain out of the EU – can be triggered.

They recommended the creation of an independent committee to assess the benefits and risks of Brexit, citing evidence that the referendum result "was influenced by misrepresentations of fact and promises that could not be delivered".

More than 16 million Britons voted to remain in the EU, but were defeated 52% to 48% by the Leave camp.

The result has raised concerns that the UK economy could plunge into recession, as businesses hold off on investing in an uncertain climate.

There are also fears that Britain could break up, with both Scotland and Northern Ireland voting overwhelmingly to stay in the EU.

'Legislation needed'

"We believe that in order to trigger Article 50, there must first be primary legislation," the letter said.

"It is of the utmost importance that the legislative process is informed by an objective understanding as to the benefits, costs and risks of triggering Article 50.

"Since the result was only narrowly in favour of Brexit, it cannot be discounted that the misrepresentations and promises were a decisive or contributory factor in the result."

David Lammy, the MP for Tottenham, said Cameron's successor will have to secure the approval of parliament before formally beginning the process to exit the EU.

"I'm absolutely clear that in the best interests of my constituents and of the nation as a whole I will be voting against the invoking of Article 50 when it comes before parliament and I know that many of my colleagues share the same view," he told the Independent.

Earlier this month, former PM Tony Blair urged the government to delay triggering Article 50 because the "will of the people" could change.

He said the UK must keep its "options open", as some claims made by Brexit campaigners before the referendum had "collapsed".

Yes apparently these lawyers are from 'Lawyers in Europe', So no bias
there then, as to the letter, its in camerons 'out' tray..

All these 'remainer's' must think just by stamping their feet and shouting..

I WANT...I WANT...I WANT..And if we don't get it we're going to stamp and
scream, and won't put their bottom lip away until they do...

BLESS!!

Of course. They are the lawyers on the gravy train.They have been the group that has benefited most from the EU.

Lammy was made to look a cnut on last weeks Andrew Neil's 'The week'
on the subject of the referendum.

Well...it's TM for the job...it'll be tough.....wants to remain but has to lead out......not exactly an ideal situation !.....you can be certain it will mean brexit delays....(sounds like rail travel in this country).....

Makes it easier for the Olympic photo-shoot......with the prime minister..; team GB turns into TM GB.....

The Irish not happy with Brexit, oh well complaint to Merkel then......

Irish Premier Warns Merkel That Ireland To Be Worst Affected By Brexit
Tue, 12th Jul 2016 14:47

BERLIN (Alliance News) - The island of Ireland would likely be worst affected by the British decision to leave the EU, Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny said after a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin on Tuesday.

The two leaders discussed the future of European integration, Britain's relationship with Europe after the Brexit as well as Ireland's "unique relationship" with Britain as the country's western neighbour and former colony.

"If Britain has access to the single market, then things will stay very much the same as they are. But that will come at a price," Kenny said, referring to the free movement of people without restriction, which is seen as a quid pro quo in the upcoming Brexit negotiations.

There were also many practical issues to consider for Ireland, Kenny said, pointing out that hundreds of thousands of Irish people living either side of the Irish Sea depended on the British economy for work.

It would be difficult to give an outcome at this stage, he added, but according to "predictive economic papers" Ireland would be the worst-affected country.

Regarding the peace process in Northern Ireland, Kenny said that a lengthy conflict between Catholics and Protestants had left "a very fragile legacy," and efforts to maintain peace and stability in the North had to continue.

"Peace can never be taken for granted," Kenny said. "This is why I keep reminding people of the value of the EU," which he considered as a "peace process in itself."

Merkel meanwhile emphasised the importance of Ireland's voice in the EU and its good relations with Germany. The 27 remaining EU member states would have to discuss the future of the union: "And here the Irish voice will be heard as well as all the others."

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MPs will debate the prospect of a second #EUref https://t.co/Og6QTAF7hr

— Sky News (@SkyNews) 12 July 2016

Brexit impact on commercial property: 1. 30pc of major deals fell through2. £500m of Brexit break clauses activated3. Prices down 10-15%

— Ed Conway (@EdConwaySky) 12 July 2016

Corbyn Automatically On Leadership Ballot Paper

19:51, UK, Tuesday 12 July 2016



http://news.sky.com/story/corbyn-automatically-on-leadership-ballot-paper-10499847

18-14 in favour Corbyn.

If he wins it will be all out war and probably a split into Labour and the People's Front of Judea. Not sure which will be which.

Tory's heading the same way if not careful.

Somebody up there likes @theresa_may: yesterday no challenger to her; today no parliamentary opposition.

— Robert Peston (@Peston) 12 July 2016

I will certainly be voting for Coryn as I did last time. It is called democracy. I want Corbyn to be leader of Labour, but probably for different reasons to his followers.

Game on I get to Vote.

Trouble is, he wouldn't stay there.

Hays,

You are a clever chap.

Not many would have guessed that.

The recent 100,000 plus new members are barred from voting unless you pay the full £25 over next two days

Will have to have been signed up in February to vote.