Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What we really need is TANKER and his con club to go down there on a Pensioners Bus Day Out..........theyl sort them out.

LOL

Alders I hear hes in Turkey on key top secret manouvers.

Hays are you talking about anti semitism because we don't want a huge flag up at the entrance to an estate and British folk attacked because they don't like what it stands for ?

Tanker & co will need to take their Sovereign Shopriders for a fast getaway.

plenty of anti-semitism abounds both in uk and across europe, and i'm afraid it's a growing trend or even threat, depending on your point of view

EU reform? Dave should find that easy, says Boris: Johnson piles the pressure on the Prime Minister on Europe

London Mayor sets Cameron up to fail by boosting his chances in EU talks

Comes after Johnson confirmed he was looking for a seat for 2015 poll

Nick Clegg says Johnson's 'bumbliness' is a disguise for ruthless ambition


By Daniel Martin

Published: 00:08, 8 August 2014 | Updated: 15:01, 8 August 2014


Boris Johnson yesterday piled the pressure on David Cameron over Europe by saying the PM’s bid to wrest back powers from Brussels should be ‘easy’.

A day after launching his audacious bid to return to Parliament, the London Mayor appeared to set Mr Cameron up to fail by saying there was little to prevent success in his European negotiations.

Senior Tories fear Mr Johnson is setting a ‘trap’ by demanding a string of unachievable reforms before he would agree to support continued membership of the European Union.






More Boris here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2719498/EU-reform-Dave-easy-says-Boris-Johnson-piles-pressure-Prime-Minister-Europe.html

At least I can listen to Boris for 20 minutes before losing interest in what he is talking about. It's called 'charisma' and it's quite important a politician has this skill.

But Boris in Downing Street? Most people would think it is never going to happen.

Hmmm? I'd like it to happen. It really would make politics good fun.



Bummer! Here are 8 reasons why it won't happen:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boris-johnson-downing-street-8-3998584#.U-Tpd_ldV8E

Hairy one,

Would you also provide a list of Jewish councillors, or those of Jewish descent in Golders Green!


Cynic,

aldo - fred's persistent non-answers are those of a retired civil servant of some rank i suspect or something of that ilk
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Unlike you, who either doesn’t think, or is incapable of so doing, I try to think before making comments about other people, or their postings. (I may be less egocentric than you appear.)

However, I refer you back to some previous postings I made about the need to modify the United Nations Charter and remove the ability by a small number of nations to prevent implementations of effective policies.

Also, to give the United Nations an effective police and the military force able to implement decisions made by the United Nations itself.

Until the United Nation receives the responsibility and effective “POWER” is given to it, then you will continue to have abuses of human rights such as Ukraine, Gaza and Israel, Iraq, Syria, Africa etc..

Reforms of international law are also needed to prevent the abuses of some money flow and armaments provisions.

Needed with this is a permanent effective investigatory and policing force to monitor these actions and prosecute when it is necessary.

The EU, USA and others countries seem to be attempting to move in that direction.
I suggest you re-read my previous postings about needs of the United Nations now and in the future.

Also, read your own abusive remarks made at that time.

I agree with Obama, in Iraq and his policies in general.
(He has to take the people of America along with his actions.)

The “World” is too interlinked for primitive tribal activities which we are now seeing around The World and advocated by those with a “little Englander mentality”.

As far as flying the Israeli, Welsh, English or Chinese flag in Britain is concerned; if it is illegal enforce the law and stop it. The flying of flags is unimportant; it is what goes with it that is the problem.

If you don’t like the law, vote in a government who will amend the law to your satisfaction, but don’t squawk when the law is applied against you for having different stances to the ruling body.

now you've got that out of your system, try going back to the question asked and answering it ...... lest you have forgotten the question .....

US President Barack Obama on Thursday night authorised air strikes to halt the advance in Iraq of Islamic militants and prevent a possible “genocide” in a substantial escalation of America’s military role in the country.

what is the view of this board?
please do not get sidetracked down the "gaza route", as that is not the question asked


for myself, i fear the consequences of both acting and of doing nothing at all.
on balance, i just about come down on the side of action, but am happy to leave the amis to do the dirty work

Old Bollock Chops - 08 Aug 2014 16:28 - 44771 of 44772

Would you also provide a list of Jewish councillors, or those of Jewish descent in Golders Green!

What for? Are they hanging a Star of David from the gates of Highgate Cemetery or summat?

http://news.sky.com/story/1315388/glasgow-flying-palestinian-flag-prompts-row

Glasgow is in trouble. It is twin town with Bethlehem in the West Bank. They were asked to show solidarity and then raised the Palestinian flag on the council offices.

Fred's idea is best.

Call in the UN, they'll get it sorted, they have a good track record.

Also, form a world government (unelected) as it's the only way forward.


All problems sorted!

fred is all flannel and spleen and has never yet answered a direct question .... that was why i rechristened him "fos fred" a few months back

Waiting times in NHS at worst for six years
NHS waiting times are at their worst level for six years, official figures show, as 3.2m are waiting for treatment it has been admitted



By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor4:53PM BST 07 Aug 2014 (Daily Telegraph)

Waiting times in the NHS are getting worse, with targets missed and more than 3.2m people waiting for treatment, officials have admitted.
Earlier this week, Jeremy Hunt, the Health Secretary, ordered 100,000 extra treatments and operations be carried out this summer at a cost of £250m to bring the problem back under control.
He warned that targets would be missed in the short-term as staff had been told to concentrate on those who had been waiting the longest.
The latest official waiting times data bears that out as the target to treat 90 per cent of people who need to be admitted to hospital within 18 weeks of their GP referring them was missed in June. It meant 32,500 people waited longer than this.
The estimate of the total number waiting for treatment has been revised up from just over three million to 3.2m as five hospital trusts failed to submit the numbers waiting on their books.

Andy Burnham, shadow Health Secretary, responding to new NHS figures showing the Government has missed the operation waiting time target, thousands more patients waiting too long for treatment and 160,000 missing patients, said: "The Prime Minister promised to keep NHS waiting times down but these figures show he has failed the test he set himself.
"Under his Government, there are more people on NHS waiting lists and those patients are waiting longer for treatment. In June, the NHS missed its waiting time target with 32,500 people who waited longer than 18 weeks – the highest in six years. Under David Cameron, people are seeing a return that old Tory choice of suffering in silence or paying to go private.
"What people will find worrying about these figures is the admission for the first time that there are around 160,000 people waiting who are missing off official figures. People need to have a clear explanation as to why official figures have underestimated waiting lists and an assurance that this will immediately be put right.
"Today's revelations come just weeks after David Cameron told the Commons that waiting times were improving. This self-serving spin is of no use to people waiting in pain for their operation.
"David Cameron's reorganisation has dragged the NHS down to the point where it can no longer meet his waiting time targets. Its why you can't trust the Tories with the NHS."
A spokesman for the Department of Health said: "We know parts of the NHS are under pressure – that's why we've given the NHS support to do 100,000 extra operations this summer. By prioritising those who have waited the longest the NHS is likely to miss the target for a while but we expect it to get back on track later in the year."

Manuel,

You are more and more like the reactionary recidivist stuck in the Middle Ages.

I know your brain cells are depleted and you haven't any original ideas of your own and as you admit you don't know what to do in the Ukraine, Gaza, Iraq or the Middle East, and due to your inabilities to change you are stuck with outdated and unoriginal opinions, which have been made with little obvious intellectual import and leaves you ploughing unrewarding furrows.

Find a job occupation suitable to your talents, perhaps washing the dishes in a cafe similar to the one you previously worked in.

Or, perhaps, clearing up after Hays and the Hairy One. (A nice little package for you, they might even give you a tip.)

Max,

If you were in charge could you have done any better over the last 50years than the United Nations have done with the cards dealt them.

Somehow I doubt it.

Improve it, not dismiss it, the same applies to the EU and similar organisations, which whether you admit it, or not, you and many others have benefited from.

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GF.

The chickens are coming home to roost for this appalling ideological antiquated government with obvious failing becoming more and more apparent.

Cameron with his fixed parliament period has fixed himself and his party.

He and his colleagues will be known as the government of incompetent "never weres".

They should be sack with pensions and privileges frozen and financial arrangements open to public scrutiny.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/08/hundreds-of-yazidi-women-have-been-taken-captive-by-islamic-state-militants_n_5662830.html

Where does isis get it's funds from?


Don't bother to look here, cos they aint saying either.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10908672/Who-funds-the-ISIS-Islamist-militants-in-Iraq.html

Nun tears down black and white flag similar to ones used by jihadis from housing estate gates and brands those who hoisted it 'naive young hotheads'

The flag was put up outside Poplar estate as part of pro-Gaza campaign
Taken down by Sister Christine Frost, 77, who works at a nearby church
It contains script used by all Muslims as a declaration of their faith
But emblem has been hijacked by extremists who use it to promote jihad
Anti-extremism campaigners condemn 'provocative' act in Tower Hamlets
After three days it was pulled down amid fears it would cause offence


By MARTIN ROBINSON and JILL REILLY
PUBLISHED: 12:20, 8 August 2014 | UPDATED: 19:39, 8 August 2014

A nun has torn down a black and white flag similar to one championed by Muslim extremists from the gates of a London housing estate and branded those who hoisted it up as 'naive young hotheads'.
The emblem was hung alongside the Palestinian flag in Poplar, Tower Hamlets, three days ago as part of a 'end the siege in Gaza' campaign.
Sister Christine Frost, 77, a nun who works at a nearby church, said she asked some friends to help take the flag down early this morning using a stepladder out of fear it could be seen as 'aggressive' or 'insensitive'.
Anti-extremist campaigners said the raising of the black flag was a 'provocative' act and undermined legitimate anger about the crisis in Palestine.
Defence Secretary Michael Fallon called it 'extremely inappropriate'.
But the Roman Catholic nun, who has worked helping the elderly in the area for the last 40 years, denied the flag was put up to show support for radical jihadists.
Speaking yards from the gate today outside St Matthias Church, she insisted there was not any anti-Semitic sentiment on the estate and said the 'issue has been taken out of proportion.'
'There's no way they would have thought it was to do with ISIS,' she said.
'I couldn't believe it had been up for two weeks. I believe it means 'There is no other God but Allah.
'The problem is that it has been adopted by ISIS.
'It's as ridiculous as saying the St George's Cross is a symbol of the BNP.
'It's exactly like with the Union Jack and the BNP supporters. It's nothing to do with being British. They're just young hot heads, naive.
'I'm Irish and its as ridiculous as saying that I represent the IRA.'
Sister Christine, who in 2010 campaigned to have anti-Christmas posters put up in the area by Muslim radicals removed, continued: 'The issue is aggression and insensitivity. It could be seen to be aggressive.
'I'm not sure that if I put up a Christian flag it wouldn't be upsetting to some people.'
It is not clear who raised the flag on the Will Crooks Estate - named after the noted Victorian-era anti-poverty campaigner and then Labour MP - but it has caused offence.
Scotland Yard sent officers to the estate this morning, although flying a flag of this sort is not illegal in Britain.
The black and white flag has the Shahadatayn - the declaration of faith that all Muslims say - written on it, which translates as 'There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God'.
But in recent years versions have been hijacked by extremist supporters of the Taliban, Hamas, al-Shabaab, Al Qaeda and ISIS.
A local resident, Nijam Miah, 57, said: 'They're young boys who dont know what they're doing. They have hot blood and they're playing with fire.'

One man who objected to it says he was confronted by a gang of youths who asked him: 'Are you a Jew?'.
When he said: 'Would it make a difference?' they responded: 'Yes it f****** would', according to the Guardian.

As news spread across the estate, Muslim men spilling out of a nearby Mosque rounded on reporters as they spoke to residents about their view on the inflammatory gesture.
The group's anger was directed at reports that terrorist-sympathisers had raised the flag similar in style to that used by terror group Isis alongside Palestinian flags.
The five journalists said they were threatened by some in the group of Asian men aged between late teens and early forties.
Snatching one reporter's notepad a man who had a young boy with him said: 'You better leave here before we do something to you. Go now, we don't want you around here.'
Two locals stepped in to calm the men down and one said: 'The people who caused these problems will be explaining themselves.
'It has caused us a lot of trouble, it has made us all look like violent terrorists.
'But the message on that flag and another here now are very similar, they just look different.
'They are just Islamic slogans that are used by all Muslims in praise of Allah.'
Speaking outside his flat where a large Palestinian flag hung from a bamboo cane student Mohammad Rasheduzzaman, 25, said: 'I'm protesting for Gaza, they're humans not animals.
'All the people here support Gaza. Muslim and Christians are a family on this estate, we are protesting against Israel.
'Some people call it a jihadi flag or a terrorism flag. It's not, it's just a sign of Islam. It says there is no god but Allah.
Sunni Muslim Faisal Islam, 44, lives with his wife and five children on the estate.
The shop worker said: 'Until now there has never been a show of any anger, but I think it has been below the surface.
'There is a big Muslim community here, who are all angry about what is happening in Gaza. I'm happy to support that.
'But putting up a flag could cause us trouble, it will give Sunnis a bad reputation.
'It might cause trouble between people here on the estate or it will encourage bad people to come here from somewhere else
'This is generally a safe place for them, we don't want extreme people talking to our kids'.


Counter-terrorism think tank the Quilliam Foundation has called the decision to raise the flag 'provocative' and 'worrying'.
A spokesman said: 'This is not the flag of the so-called Islamic State (formerly ISIS), but the black flag with the shahadatayn (Muslim declarations of faith) written in white is known as the rayah, a symbol that has been adopted by Islamists in the last 25 years. Since the Bosnian conflict, it has been increasingly adopted by jihadist organisations.
'It is a provocative move by those who have put up the flag as they will well know its significance.
'Many geopolitical conflicts and humanitarian crises in the Middle East get adopted as 'Muslim causes' and subsequently get manipulated by myopic Islamist narratives.
'It is worrying that legitimate grievances surrounding Gaza and the plight of the Palestinian people are combined with jihadist symbols'.
The flag was removed following concerns that it could cause community tension

- Tower Hamlets Council
Tower Hamlets Council has admitted it received complaints about the flag but when they arrived to pull it down it was already gone.
A council spokesman said: 'The council can confirm that following reports this morning of a flag erected on the Will Crooks Estate, council officials took steps to remove it but found it had already been taken down by Sister Christine Frost, a well-known local activist and promoter of community cohesion. The flag was removed following concerns that it could cause community tension.
'The council welcomes the removal of this flag. We have consistently demonstrated that there is no place for hate in Tower Hamlets, whatever form it takes. We take decisive action to ensure people's actions do not affect the strong community cohesion that underpins Tower Hamlets.
'This borough's community is proud to act as One Tower Hamlets and the council and its partners will always act to preserve and promote this united spirit, including removing any unauthorised flag on public space.'
The council's controversial mayor Lutfur Rahman sparked a storm of protest last month to after raising the Palestinian flag over the town hall 'in solidarity with Gaza'.
Mr Rahman ordered the flag to fly 'in support of a ceasefire and peace'.
Jewish leaders condemned the move as 'destructive' for community relations as local residents said the council should concentrate on 'potholes and bins' and not international conflicts.
Pro-Palestine supporters also blocked the nearby Blackwall Tunnel, waved flags and yelled slogans in a protest days later.



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