Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

doodlebug4 - 19 Sep 2014 11:32 - 45957 of 45962

Polls consistently get it wrong, whereas bookies usually get it right - which is one of the reasons I can never understand why posters on this thread quote what the polls say on a daily basis! :-)...........ends

Doodles Bookies have labour as 4/6 0n favourites for the GE. Therefore generaly agree with the polls.

What a lot are forgetting are that the partys are now all converging on the middle ground and the working middle class worker an area which as got bigger and bigger.

By definition the last election only had a hung parliament and future GEs will have smaller overall winners or coalition governments, thats why Cynic is talking clap trap refering to labour not eating away at the Tories position.

"Cynic is talking clap trap refering to labour not eating away at the Tories position"

when and where did i say anything of the sort?
i have only ever said and consistently so, that it will be a close call in any direction

Nice to see Alex Salmond's own constuency voting no. It is a shame that politicians have to try and heal the divisions. It would be more amusing to see Cameron more triumphal and rubbing Salmond's nose in it.

Bunkum.

And heres the evidence...... post 45596

i.e. 6% lead for labour is pathetic; conservatives' performance may be pretty dire, but labour has signally failed to capitalise on this

It is a long way to the the GE. A sitting government has all the cards. Osborne can generate a mini boom and come up with some tax or other giveaways. There are lots of buttons and levers at his disposal.

Hays are you on medication or just having a nasty dream.

Alders for you when you look in.

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Perhaps, the character was his idol!

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Cameron answers 'English question' and conjures nightmare for Miliband

English votes for English laws pledge could tighten the Tories grip on power and reduce Scotland's voice at Westminster



Patrick Wintour


theguardian.com, Friday 19 September 2014 11.09 BST



The English question, long buried, has rushed to the centre of British politics as David Cameron announced that devolution of further powers to Scotland will be dependent on a broader agreement that, in future, English MPs alone will vote on English issues.

The prime minister, of course, did not make this clear when he made his vow to the Scottish people in the Daily Record along with Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband. He kept silent because he knows the issue is so entangled that it would have diluted his devolution pledge, given at a time when polls were suggesting Scotland might vote yes.

The implications of Scottish MPs being excluded from the Commons on an array of issues is not just a constitutional thicket, but also a crude political nightmare for Miliband, the Labour leader, since he is likely to have rely on a phalanx of Scottish MPs to secure an overall majority for much legislation.

On the face of it, Cameron, in his dawn statement on the steps of Downing Street, said that if issues such as tax and welfare were devolved to Scotland, then Scots MPs would have to be excluded from votes on these issues. If carried through, the pledge raises the question of whether a Scotland-based constituency MP could again be chancellor of the exchequer or vote on the budget. Indeed, one English Conservative MP, Bernard Jenkin, has said a Scottish chancellor must be a thing of the past.

Labour will react warily to the idea, knowing it may seem popular in England and is already being demanded by the UK Independence party (Ukip). But initial reaction from senior Labour figures such as Owen Smith, the shadow Welsh secretary, was hostile. "The last thing Scotland needs is a constitutional fix which reduces Scotland's voice at Westminster & strengthens Tories' grip on power," he tweeted. "Farage and Cameron united today in responding to yesterday's decision by seeking to concentrate more power in their hands & at Westminster," he added.



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Camoron as as much chance of pulling that off as I have of sha-ging her that runs strictly come dancing, Tessa someat or other.

Not that I watch it................ducky.

Just for you, gf.....

Well, and also as a reminder to us all.

WOW I didnt think her paps were that big. Yummy.

Leg man myself but the other comes as a bonus.

Just listen to Alec Salmond stepping down speech.

Worth a viewing http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29284169

Personally, I feel he is head and shoulders above the majority of UK politicians.

Good luck to him if he can retire!

45596 is absolutely accurate
labour should have been romping away in the polls months ago, albeit that the gap always tightens just prior to "the day"
as it is, labour's lead has been a pathetic 6% for ages and ages, and some would say it's being nibbled even now

Explain then why Camoron against Britains worst ever PM (Brown) didnt get a majority and had to rely on the lib/dems. ????????????????????????????

Cyners just accept it the days of big majoritys are a thing of the past.................unless of course Camoron the crook is trying to orchestrate something out of this vote and pledge.

ps,I wish i was nibbling tess daley.

oh yawn yawn yawn sticky

only a few days ago i am sure you were prattling about labour achieving an overall majority of 60 seats
but now i think you (or is it fred?) are mumbling about needing a coalition, though i confess i read very little of the political rantings of the pair of you

And guess what?

A. Alex Salmond resigns as Scottish First Minister (in the wake of the 'Yes' defeat and leaving open the chance of another vote for independence under a different SNP leader):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11109849/Alex-Salmond-resigns-as-Scottish-First-Minister.html

Cynic labour will still win with a majority.