goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 24 Sep 2014 16:27
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yet another stupid response, but what else can one expect from that source
Fred1new
- 24 Sep 2014 16:55
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Hell,
I was trying to get down to your level!
I was also pointing out to you that you language referring ot ISIS as blood seeking lunatics is less than helpful and probably not true.
They could be psychopathic from you standards, but unfortunately are fighting with the weapons at their hands.
Bombing Iraq from 50,000 feet and accepting collateral damage is just as barbaric as chopping the head off your enemy.
Using Depleted Uranium - in Dirty Bombs and leaving them scattered over the soil of Iraq so that they can later be associated birth to malformations , Leukaemia and later genetic abnormalities for future generation, is not what many hope for from a civilized countries like the UK and USA.
The only thing is the media make the beheading gruesome while they skate over the true price of war.
I am not a pacifist but I don't delude myself about the consequences of winning a war.
The question you ask is complex, that is why there is so much hesitation by Obama, bombing will not solve the problem by itself and feet on the ground will be necessary and Assad and cronies need removal.
But the majority of the feet on the ground and ongoing administration in the hands of countries in the immediate area.
But before it is done the "arguments" should be placed before the United Nation and that is another reason for reviewing the UN and strengthening and disposing of the right to veto.
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Now, listen to nurse and tuck yourself up in bed again.
cynic
- 24 Sep 2014 17:00
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yet again, you avoid giving a direct answer to the question asked, though as the ex civil servant that i suspect you are, it was no doubt the sort of training you were given
so let's try again shall we? ...... yes or no will pretty much suffice in both instances
should uk join with usa in air strikes against both syria and iraq to start destroying isil?
in the likelihood that this will not succeed in itself, should we agree to put troops on the ground?
Haystack
- 24 Sep 2014 18:18
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Haystack
- 24 Sep 2014 18:36
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http://order-order.com/2014/09/24/disabled-delegates-at-miliband-speech-forced-to-leave-front-row-seats/?utm_source=Guy+Fawkes%27+Blog+List&utm_campaign=0bf5acea7e-happy+hour&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_547885726c-0bf5acea7e-229951757
Labour bosses are facing allegations that they ejected disabled delegates from their front row seats before Ed Miliband’s speech yesterday to make way for more telegenic members. Bernadette Horton, who walks with a crutch, reportedly tripped and fell as she was moved from her chair. Bernadette told the Morning Star she was told by stewards the seats were for disabled attendees, but was made to leave anyway to make way for “bright young things” to shake Miliband’s hand:
“As I was going up the stairs I just lost my footing and fell. I was really upset and shaken. The people in suits saw this but didn’t say anything. I said ‘if you’re Labour you should be ashamed. We’re like pariahs in our own party. It has to stop.”
Fred1new
- 24 Sep 2014 19:17
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Manuel,
Re-read what I posted and then ask nurse for another tranquilizer!
goldfinger
- 24 Sep 2014 20:28
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READ AND WEEP HAYS...... from the TORY side..........
Labour Party's tax and benefit proposals a hit with voters
by William Jordan in Front Page and Politics
Wed September 24, 2014 9:55 a.m. BST
YouGov finds support for several new Labour policies across the political spectrum A day after Labour leader Ed Miliband’s 68-minute speech, many commentators have turned their attention he didn’t mention, rather than what he did. However, Labour did propose a number of new policies at the conference that will likely ...
Read more...
http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/09/24/labour-tax-benefit-policies-hit-with-voters/
goldfinger
- 24 Sep 2014 20:29
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Ive got a big cheesy grin on my face Hays......he he.
required field
- 24 Sep 2014 20:45
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I know everbody is talking about destroying Isis, but what is very much needed in the Islamic world is education !.....Islam has a historic international reputation for scolars and knowledge, and once this war is over : the West, the East and the richer Arab nations should help, repair, and instruct in these regions about the rights and wrongs, and bring prosperity, health, and lessons on how to respect another human being....
MaxK
- 24 Sep 2014 21:33
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I think the word "historic" is the missing link.
Today we have jihad, beheadings and the mutilation/subjugation of women and brainwashing of younger peoples.
Islam has gone modern.
Fred1new
- 24 Sep 2014 21:38
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And the west is standing by when some countries where many are dying of poverty and malnutrition and disease is killing thousands.
Perhaps the legacy we left some of those country.
ummhhh.
Nice to be able to wash one's hands!
aldwickk
- 24 Sep 2014 22:57
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international reputation for scholars and knowledge
I don't think they have, what knowledge ?
MaxK
- 24 Sep 2014 23:57
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MaxK
- 25 Sep 2014 08:06
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MaxK
- 25 Sep 2014 08:19
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cynic
- 25 Sep 2014 08:36
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fred sidles and slithers out of the door yet again when asked whether he is for or against uk's involvement vs isis, while derogatorily pretending that he has indeed cast his vote - but then of course "as a matter of principle" he never does
Fred1new
- 25 Sep 2014 08:53
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Manuel.
You are becoming more and more like and intellectual dwarf.
Go and stroke you leader's new pussy!
Fred1new
- 25 Sep 2014 08:55
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Or ask him to tell you what to do:
But ask him why he is becoming more and more like a tainted ham actor!
cynic
- 25 Sep 2014 08:58
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is that so ..... insult so becomes you, but it carries little weight .... nor does it disguise that you fail, time after time after time, to answer a straight question, as in this instance
anyway, for this and any other "intellectual dwarfs" please tell us yes or no whether or not you would support uk joining the amis in the airstrikes against isis in iraq
Haystack
- 25 Sep 2014 09:13
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GF was crowing a couple of days ago that Miliband would be giving a storming speech without the aid of notes. How the mighty have fallen. His tour de force resulting in him leaving out immigration, the deficit and the economy due to a lapse in memory.