Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Anybody know were Stan is ?

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The reported turnout of 4000 in the Rochester Tory primary is a disaster for the party given the efforts put into it


7:14 PM - 23 Oct 2014


http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/10/23/just-4000-of-rochesters-70k-electors-took-part-in-in-the-tory-primary-which-looks-like-an-expensive-mistake/

Hazyone,

I thought you would be to busy to post here as you were carrying handbags at Rochester and preparing excuses.

You must wake up in the morning feeling sick.

Why not give Cameron a helping hand in Europe, he needs your support! He is being laughed at there.

They are saying the place for cheap politics is back in the UK.

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Perhaps this is what you are diverting attention from.



A must read to brighten your day:


The Conservatives are heading for another humiliating defeat at Ukip’s hands in the crucial Rochester and Strood by-election, according to a survey by ComRes.


It shows that Nigel Farage’s party has opened a 13-point lead over the Tories ahead of the contest on 20 November, which was triggered by Mark Reckless', the former Tory MP for the Kent constituency, defection to Ukip. He looks set to become Ukip’s second elected MP.

The findings are a huge setback for David Cameron, who is desperate to avoid a second by-election disaster following Douglas Carswell’s victory in Clacton this month. Rochester and Strood is seen as the most important by-election for many years. If the Tories lose, some of their MPs may try to oust Mr Cameron by forcing a party leadership contest. But Cameron allies doubt his critics would split the party six months before a general election.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/poll-tories-on-course-for-another-humiliating-defeat-in-rochester-byelection-9811832.html




They can't even elect a candidate as a fall guy and yet pump in a £100000 of other peoples' money.

Not fit to run a market stall.

Ps,

Put you rain coat on and check the bookies' odds on you friends. You must have one if it only your dog. (Poor sod.)

I think the ukip surge has caught the main players on the hop, they really thought it would be politics as usual.

Breaking News........................................

EU tells Britain to pay extra €2.1bn
Alex Barker and George Parker
16 Mins Ago
Financial Times

Britain has been told to pay an extra €2.1 billion to the EU budget within weeks on account of its relative prosperity, a hefty surcharge that will further add to David Cameron's domestic woes over Europe.
To compensate for its economy performing better than other EU countries since 1995, the UK will have to make a top-up payment on December 1 representing almost a fifth of the country's net contribution last year. France, meanwhile, will receive a €1 billion rebate, according to Brussels calculations seen by the Financial Times.

The one-off bill will infuriate eurosceptic MPs at an awkward moment for the prime minister, who is wrestling with strong anti-EU currents in British politics that are buffeting his party and prompting a rethink of the UK's place in Europe.
Mr Cameron is determined to challenge the additional fee and last night met with Mark Rutte, the Netherlands premier, to discuss the issue. His country is also being required to make a top-up payment, though it is smaller than the UK's.

A Downing Street source said: "It's not acceptable to just change the fees for previous years and demand them back at a moment's notice."

The source added: "The European Commission was not expecting this money and does not need this money and we will work with other countries similarly affected to do all we can to challenge this."

The surcharge stems from the EU changing the way it calculates gross national income to include more hidden elements such as prostitution and illegal drugs.
EU officials say the calculation simply reflects the longstanding practice of adjusting contributions of countries according to their pace of growth. "Britain's contribution reflects an increase in wealth, just as in Britain you pay more to the Inland Revenue if your earnings go up," said Patrizio Fiorilli, a Commission spokesperson.

While the EU budget is a perennial gripe for Tory eurosceptics, the surcharge will be an unwelcome development for Mr Cameron in what is already looking like a stormy few weeks in Westminster over Europe.
Partly in response to Nigel Farage's resurgent UK Independence party, which claimed its first seat in Westminster this month, Mr Cameron is eyeing a more profound renegotiation of EU membership terms that includes curbs on immigration. Any deal would be put to an in-out referendum in 2017.

Britain will make the top-up payment less than a fortnight after the Conservative party's expected defeat to Ukip in the Rochester by-election next month. According to latest polling by ComRes, Ukip is 13 points ahead in the race, which was triggered by the sitting Tory MP defecting to Ukip last month.

It will also coincide with a fraught House of Commons vote on whether to "opt-in" to 35 EU justice and policing measures, including the European Arrest Warrant. That must take place by December 1 and the prime minister has been warned that up to 100 Tory MPs might rebel.

News of the revised contributions, which the UK was told about last week, comes as Mr Cameron urged EU leaders at a summit on Thursday to stand-up to the European parliament's demands to increase EU spending to help boost growth.

The surcharge comes on top of the net UK contribution to the EU budget, which was £8.6 billion in 2013. Britain faces by far the biggest top-up payment: the preliminary figures show that the Netherlands pays an extra €642 million, while Germany receives a rebate of €779 million, France €1 billion and Poland €316 million.

In a note to EU member states explaining the adjustments, the commission said that it was "aware that in some cases this might have a significant budgetary impact in terms of cash flow".

Mr Cameron is braced for defeat in the Rochester and Strood by-election on Nov. 20, but has promised to "throw the kitchen sink" at holding the seat. A second by-election defeat to Ukip—the anti-EU party won the Clacton by-election earlier this month—would cause further ructions in the Conservative ranks only six months before the general election.

Some Tory MPs say it is unlikely Mr Cameron would face a vote of no-confidence, although only 46 critical MPs are needed to trigger such a vote. However the party fears further defections to Ukip would follow defeat at Rochester.

Looks like the Tories management of the economy is going to go further into disarray.

The €uroburgers want Cameroon to lose!



The scandal of Europe’s ever-expanding budget

Auditors have declined to sign off EU spending for years, so why is there no accountability for this?





By Telegraph View

6:20AM BST 23 Oct 2014



Jean-Claude Juncker, the man Britain did not want as European Commission president, yesterday won the backing of the parliament in Strasbourg for his new team to run the EU for the next five years. His first action on being formally confirmed in his post was to tell David Cameron that there would be “no compromise” with the UK over the issue of the free movement of migrants within the single market. In this, he was seamlessly reaffirming the absolutist stance voiced earlier this week by his predecessor, José Manuel Barroso.


Mr Juncker followed this up by pledging to embark upon another great spending splurge. He plans to unveil a 300-billion-euro investment package before Christmas to boost jobs and growth, amid global fears of a return of the eurozone debt crisis. Meanwhile, MEPs rejected the budget cuts imposed by the Council of Ministers, at Mr Cameron’s behest, earlier this year. National leaders had accepted the argument that if they were having to bite the austerity bullet, then the EU should too – but MEPs have not only voted to reverse their suggested cuts of £1.7 billion but to add an extra £3.7 billion on top. There will now need to be further talks between the two bodies, before a final budget is set next month. The chances are that it will end up higher than expected – and that British taxpayers will have to find up to £680 million extra at a time when their own living standards are being squeezed. Even the wider seven-year budget deal negotiated by Mr Cameron is now in jeopardy.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11180190/The-scandal-of-Europes-ever-expanding-budget.html

Cameron is playing his cards well.

He must be advised by hazyone, Tinker amd Aldict!

Watch you don't lose too much money on TCG, Fred The chart is looking distinctly dodgy!

TCG are still closing branches. Difficult to compete with the likes of Expedia and all the other similar online companies. CGT looks like a dinosaur.

I'm not a great fan of Tom Winnifrith - gf usually likes to quote him line & verse - so I would take his comment that "Harriet Green is on borrowed time" with a pinch of salt. However I would be concerned if I was still holding TCG shares. If you have tight stop losses in place then nothing to worry about Fred!

db4,

That is why I am using short stops.

The charts are not for the feint hearts, but I am in profit.

From other info have a look to-morrow.

Check fundies as well.

But even I make mistakes.

But I would trust target prices a lot further than I would trust hays.

Haven't had a body guard for many years but certainly would consider one if I dealt with Haze1.

Quite happy with my present profit but would take a little more!

Harriet was the new darling of the city when she first took over the helm and to be fair she did a great job, but I wouldn't be surprised if she decided to move on sometime in the not too distant future.

DB4, Haze1, and camp followers if you wish to decide the future of the tories have a look at Question time which was on tonight.

You should enjoy it.

Well said Fred!


The UKIP burd fair tore the nickers off Nu Labs piece of fluff and her stupid positions.


The rest were a waste of space, worst tory performance ever.

I did, a Labour walkover.

You bin at the firewater gf?

QT was as expected as it was from Liverpool. LAB and UKIP shouting at each other like a couple of fish wives was very entertaining with both of them delivering nonsense.