goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 26 Oct 2014 08:42
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Just noticed this Manuel's favourite paper a short time ago about Dave's previous blusterings. (a bit like Manuel's.)
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Three men in a boat (and a very powerful woman):
Cameron goes rowing in Sweden with Merkel and other EU leaders in latest bid to block Junker getting Brussels' top job
Cameron joins Merkel, Dutch PM Rutte and Sweden's Reinfeldt at summit
Four leaders holding talks over EU reform at Swedish PM's summer home
PM at odds with German Chancellor over appointment of next EU President
Cameron said he and other leaders should pick who gets top EU jobs
Summit comes after Boris Johnson mocked PM's attempt to veto favourite
Jean-Claude Juncker is the front runner, but UK thinks he is too pro-EU
Downing Street wants to protect plan to claw back powers from Brussels
Labour announced today that they backed the PM's bid to block Mr Junker
But Johnson says: 'You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a cochon'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2652671/Cameron-interfering-Brussels-jobs-quintessence-turd-polishing-pointlessness-claims-Boris-Johnson.html#ixzz3HEpgxsag
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The Man who is going to stop everything and lie down for Britain!
Fred1new
- 26 Oct 2014 08:50
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Johann Lamont.
I must admit she used to send a shiver through me. Thought of her as the Doppelgänger for Theresa May.
How competent she was I don't know, but feel she did a lot for the SNP. A bit like May and Mcvey do for Labour!
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But you can see how dirty the cons are going to get in the lead up to the election through false media information.
cynic
- 26 Oct 2014 09:33
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fred
i'm sure it has been within the last few weeks that you have been raving that labour would have an overall majority or 20/30/40 or even 60 seats
now you are backing - voting would be entirely the wrong in the context of you - labour as the largest party but still (quite well?) short of the majority
in almost the same breath, you say the tories will take a whacking, presumably at the hands of ukip (you think).
slightly irrelevantly, you assume (probably wrongly) that ukip will only take a small number of labour votes
ukip most assuredly will not go anywhere near bedding labour, and that being so, who will hold this plethora of seats that labour will need to support them in coalition or even as a minority gov't?
required field
- 26 Oct 2014 09:41
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Good morning doctor....
Good morning patient.....what's the problem ?.......
I've been coughing and sneezing for a day or so now...
Ahh...I see.....a clear case of dementia !.....
But...but doctor,,,,no buts please...
Next !...
Good morning doctor..
Good morning patient...what's the story ?...morning.. glory ?...(snigger)...only joking...
It's my back !....it's aching.....
hmmm....another case ..odd..sorry.. of dementia I mean..euhh.. I see...
But..doctor..
No butts....you must stop smoking...
Next !...
End of the day : one quack to another :
How many demons have you clocked up doctor ?
Loads !....never seen so many cases in my life....24 dementias and 2 measles....must be an epidemic !..
Seychelles this year ?...you're on !...
Might be a bit like this with the bonus scheme....
MaxK
- 26 Oct 2014 09:50
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The fuhrer of the €U says nine!
Angela Merkel opposes Cameron EU renegotiation plan
German chancellor ‘will not tamper’ with principle of free movement of workers, which PM seems to want to alter
Press Association
theguardian.com, Sunday 26 October 2014 07.31 GMT
David Cameron’s hopes of an EU renegotiation over the free movement of workers have suffered a blow after Angela Merkel spelled out her opposition to fundamental change.
The prime minister has indicated he will make changes to the principle of freedom of movement within the union a “red line” in a mooted renegotiation of the UK’s membership terms.
He is thought to be preparing a manifesto pledge to bring in quotas for low-skilled migrants from the EU. Before the last general election Cameron promised to bring net annual immigration down to the “tens of thousands” but has failed to get anywhere near the target.
But, speaking to the Sunday Times, the German chancellor appeared to dismiss the prospect of radical change.
“Germany will not tamper with the fundamental principles of free movement in the EU,” Merkel said.
The setback comes after a difficult few days for the PM, in which he was presented at a Brussels summit with a demand to pay an extra £1.7bn into EU coffers.
Cameron responded furiously to the bill, insisting it would not be paid by the deadline of 1 December, and warning that the row risked pushing the UK closer to the exit door.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/angela-merkel-opposes-cameron-eu-renegotiation-plan
goldfinger
- 26 Oct 2014 10:08
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Fred this is just a molehill with the Scots compared to what Camoron faces after Reckless wins the bi election.
Just sit back with a cigar/glass of wine and relax and watch the feathers flying and developing.
It will be good TV.
goldfinger
- 26 Oct 2014 10:09
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Cynic you have e-mail.
Haystack
- 26 Oct 2014 10:34
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Update - Labour and Conservative Tied
by YouGov in Politics
Sun October 26, 2014 6 a.m. GMT
Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 24th Oct - Con 33%, Lab 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 16%
That is three polls in a row making them tied
Haystack
- 26 Oct 2014 11:10
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The problem with the 1.9b payment is that it is fair. It is just one of the normal balancing payments. We get them all the time based on how well each economy in the EU is performing. This one is larger than normal because we have been doing so we'll. If we had a terrible economy then we wouldn't be complaining about a huge rebate. The principle is that the best performing countries support the worst. It is a sort of insurance policy. We will have to pay and we should.
MaxK
- 26 Oct 2014 11:20
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It's a transfer union by another name.
2517GEORGE
- 26 Oct 2014 11:25
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The UK's annual deficit is around 6% of GDP, in Europe it is 2.9%, so how come we pay them? We are doing extremely well on borrowed money.
2517
Fred1new
- 26 Oct 2014 11:46
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Manuel,
Post 48525
I generally pick my words carefully when I post. My father warned me a very long time “not to write in haste and as you may repent in leisure”. (Adding it is sometimes better to bite one’s tongue, and put the incident into memory.) In general I have followed that advice. (One or two regrets.)
I think the figures you are trying to point to, are those of your mate Lord knows what Ashcroft polls.
When you were holidaying recently you must have got some more sand in your brain box.
I would think the chances of Labour doing a deal with UKIP would be not feasible. They are poles apart in basic ideology. That is not so of Labour, Lib/Dems, SNP, Greens “moderate independents”.
Tories trying to do a deal with UKIP would be at the price of Cameron’s head and might appeal to reactionaries in the Con. party like Cash and Redwood (Wedgewood) and outdated reactionaries like yourself and Hazyone.
Fred1new
- 26 Oct 2014 11:54
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.
16% would take a nice little chunk out of tories.
The UKIP will certainly appeal to the racist tendencies in the extreme right of the tories but will have less appeal to labour and Lib.Dem voters, although Cameron and crew are trying to whip up the immigration problem, and are trying to beat Labour with it. Unless Labour and Lib/dems are more "inept" than I think, this attempt will backfire on the tories.
doodlebug4
- 26 Oct 2014 12:53
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By James Titcomb, and James Quinn
11:10AM BST 25 Oct 2014
Twenty-five of 130 European banks have failed the ECB and EBA's comprehensive assessment of their financial health - but all British banks pass
Almost one in five of the eurozone’s biggest banks have failed the European Central Bank (ECB)’s comprehensive test of their financial safety.
Twenty-five - including Greece's Eurobank Ergasias and Italy's Banca Monte dei Paschi - of the 130 lenders being assessed by the ECB have failed the stress tests - the biggest-ever single review of the single currency’s major banks.
13 of the 25 need to raise €25bn (£20bn) of fresh capital. The remaining 12 have already covered their shortfalls, the ECB said of the tests, which covered the banks' positions at the end of last year.
Both the ECB and European Banking Authority (EBA) released the results of its stress tests at 11am on Sunday.
The two bodies’ assessments, which model scenarios such as downturns in the housing market, a new recession and a spike in borrowing costs, cover similar ground but have important differences.
The ECB conducted an additional review of eurozone banks’ assets ahead of it taking over as the primary regulator of banks that use the single currency; the EBA’s tests also cover European banks that are not part of the euro, including British ones.
Rather than acting as a black mark against failing lenders, the tests are designed to restore confidence in the sector by giving banks that pass a seal of approval.
The EBA has previously held two rounds of stress tests, the last one in 2011, but they were seen as too soft.
The current round is the first to be conducted by the ECB. To pass, banks must have had a Tier 1 Capital ratio – a measure of their safety – of 8pc last year.
Under the adverse scenarios the ECB is simulating, this can fall to no more than 5.5pc.
All four British banks involved in the EBA process - Barclays, HSBC, Lloyds Banking Group and the Royal Bank of Scotland - passed the review, however, Lloyds suffered the biggest shock under the most extreme scenario.
All four plus another four banks and building societies are facing much sterner stress tests from the Bank of England. The Bank will release the results of its own tests in December.
Andrea Leadsom, economic secretary to the Treasury, welcomed the results. "A key part of our long term economic plan is to strengthen UK banks so that they can support the economy, help businesses, and serve customers," she said.
"I’m pleased to see that the UK banks have passed the EBA stress tests. This shows our robust reforms to build a more resilient banking sector are working," she went on.
“This unprecedented, in-depth review of the largest banks’ positions will boost public confidence in the banking sector,” said ECB Vice President Vitor Constancio.
“This should facilitate more lending in Europe, which will help economic growth," he continued.
Colin Brereton, economic crisis response lead partner at accouning giant PwC, said of the results: "Although this should restore some confidence and stability to the market, we are still far from a solution to the banking crisis and the challenges facing the banking sector.
"The Comprehensive Assessment was only a one-off test of solvency, not of ongoing viability. The test of long-term viability is whether banks can generate sufficient returns to cover all their costs, including capital costs."
Not everyone praised the results, however. Sven Ludwig, senior vice president of risk and analytics at risk firm SunGard said: "The stress test has been an extremely worthwhile process but is flawed because it focuses purely on capital strength and liquidity ratios."
“The regulator focusses on capital strength and liquidity and what is missing is the strategic element. Struggling banks can find themselves locked into a prison of liquidity and capital ratios."
"Capital, liquidity and profitability form a triangle which defines the health of a bank. Europe’s banks in aggregate have suffered seven years of low profitability. Without profits, banks cannot rebuild their capital base and will slowly fail," he concluded.
Telegraph finance
MaxK
- 26 Oct 2014 13:48
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Is there an election due?
British towns being ‘swamped’ by immigrants, says Michael Fallon
Defence secretary’s use of word harks back to Thatcher, amid Ukip pressure and Tory calls for renegotiation of EU membership
Rajeev Syal
The Guardian, Sunday 26 October 2014 12.28 GMT
Michael Fallon, the defence secretary, has claimed British towns are being “swamped” by immigrants and their residents are “under siege”, in an escalation of the emotive language being used by Tory ministers calling for a renegotiation of the UK’s relationship with Europe.
In terms reminiscent of Margaret Thatcher in the 1970s, he said on Sunday that in some areas of the UK, large numbers of migrant workers and foreign people claiming benefits should be subject to some form of restraint – or risk dominating the local population.
Under pressure from Ukip in the polls and facing the possibility of losing the Rochester and Strood byelection to the party next month, David Cameron has indicated he would make changes to the principle of freedom of movement of workers within the union a “red line” in a mooted renegotiation of the UK’s membership terms.
Fallon made his comments after being forced to deny that Cameron’s efforts to renegotiate the UK’s relationship with Europe were foundering after Angela Merkel spelled out her opposition.
After the prime minister detailed his plan for Britain to regain control over its borders, Merkel told a Sunday newspaper she was opposed to fundamental change.
Fallon told Sky News: “The Germans haven’t seen our proposals yet and we haven’t seen our proposals yet, and that’s still being worked on at the moment to see what we can do to prevent whole towns and communities being swamped by huge numbers of migrants.
“In some areas of the UK, down the east coast, towns do feel under siege, [with] large numbers of migrant workers and people claiming benefits, and it’s quite right we look at that,” he said.
His comments were immediately condemned by his cabinet colleague Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrat environment secretary, who said he disagreed with Fallon’s language on the same programme. “When we talk about immigration we need to be responsible in the words that we use,” he said.
More:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/26/british-towns-swamped-immigrants-michael-fallon-eu
doodlebug4
- 26 Oct 2014 14:38
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Where does Ed stand on immigration? Depends who he is talking to: Labour leader accused of 'total cynicism' after giving two sharply contrasting speeches in just seven hours
Leader pledges to crack down immigration in UKIP stronghold of Rochester
But highlights problem of 'race inequality' in Croydon just hours later
Two contrasting speeches appeared completely tailored to his audience
By SIMON WALTERS FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
PUBLISHED: 22:44, 25 October 2014 | UPDATED: 10:13, 26 October 2014
goldfinger
- 26 Oct 2014 15:12
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Things going the Tory way at the moment but just wait until Reckless trashes them.
Thatl be it with other defectors.
Labour to win the GE easy with a majority.
doodlebug4
- 26 Oct 2014 16:11
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By Telegraph View
7:00AM GMT 26 Oct 2014
The Scottish Labour Party is in turmoil, and the blame game has begun. After quitting as Scottish leader, Johann Lamont labelled her Westminster colleagues “dinosaurs” for failing to recognise the need for her local party to pursue its own identity. This follows a long brain-drain of Labour talent from the North to the South that has left behind a desiccated husk. After decades of domination, Labour was wounded gravely by the SNP’s triumph in the 2011 Holyrood elections. Current polling still puts the nationalists far ahead.
Pride prevents Ed Miliband from accepting any blame for his party’s fortunes in Scotland. After thousands of Labour voters defected to the nationalist cause in the referendum, he preferred to gripe about Mrs Lamont and her local organisation. But if Labour is losing out even in its historic heartlands, then responsibility ultimately lies with bad national leadership. Mr Miliband has failed to explain how Labour would manage the economy and failed to make as passionate a case for the Union as that made by, say, Jim Murphy, the shadow international development secretary.
The strategy of sticking to Left-wing rhetoric in the hope of sneaking into No 10 with the help of Ukip is sheer negligence. There is, however, the potential for poetic justice in all of this. While Mr Miliband is counting on Ukip to sap Tory votes south of the border, the SNP could do exactly the same to Labour votes in Scotland – maybe denying Labour a majority. But for all Britons who want to secure the economic recovery, relying on such good fortune is too high a risk to take. Better to ensure that no vote is wasted on the Ukip protest, and that the Tories triumph in 2015.
Fred1new
- 26 Oct 2014 16:48
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DB4 and MAX
Don't show it to Napoleon.
It will tire him to much.
Here is an interesting article for you!
It looks as if Dave has just seen Haze and Manuel!
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/26/crude-assault-on-europe-strikes-at-enlightenment-values
Fred1new
- 26 Oct 2014 16:51
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But another is the editorial;
It pointers where the UK could being paying some of its bills from:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/26/observer-view-on-corporation-tax