Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I hope it is not a Russian gourmet!

It could all be the start of a period of weak government.

we've already had at least 4 years of that, and arguably 12 or more

Sturgeon’s Euro gambit could galvanise another Scottish independence tilt

Nicola Sturgeon’s bid for a Scottish veto over a European exit further defines SNP politics as a Ukip-free zone


Ruth Wishart


theguardian.com, Thursday 30 October 2014 16.38 GMT





Nicola Sturgeon’s bid to let the four home nations have an individual say on whether to stay in the European Union has met with a predictably dusty response. The prime minister insisted on Wednesday there would be one UK-wide vote. The Labour party asked why, if England had no say in Scotland’s independence vote, Scotland should have an effective veto on a European one. And David Coburn, Ukip’s solitary Scottish MEP, huffed and puffed all over the Scottish airwaves asking “what part of no the Nationalists had failed to understand”.



More: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/30/nicola-sturgeon-euro-scottish-independence-snp-ukip

Some idiots setting off fireworks already here, it drives me mad every year with two frightened dogs in the house. It sounds like another world war kicking off and these things cost fortunes to buy now.

bet the dogs don't like christmas and new year either
don't be such a killjoy ..... and yes i've had dogs and cats all my life too, some of them with 4 legs

exec

Yes. Pity he went off the rails and got a deservant ban.

Did he get banned , how do you know that ?

And they can deport Halloween back to America

He sorta kinda told us.

Are you talking American lingo Exec?!

I take that as a don't know then ... lol

gf can still read our posts as it is free to sign up.

Haystack Send an email to Haystack View Haystack's profile - 30 Oct 2014 17:48 - 48824 of 48833

It could all be the start of a period of weak government.

It is the weakest PR seeking government I have known in 50 years and PR sometimes stand for per rectum.

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It would be interesting to see UK outside the EU and Scotland, Wales and NI
inside the Union!


8-)

All three would require life support from day one.

Plus, England would have to agree (if still in) and that would be very unlikely.

We would just construct border controls and define any not ethnically Welsh or Scotland twice the rate value for their second homes and £300 a years for a visitors visa.

And we wouldn't play England at rugby.

Mind the English don't know how to play that game properly anyway.


PS. we would put vat on the water supplied to England at 40%.

And you wouldn't get any Welsh Lamb.

Just weighing up if the DVLC is in the same pickle as the passport office. Been told up to six weeks wait to get a refund on the remainder of the road tax disk. Not what was advertised. When my tax is due I will tell them wait 6 weeks. Perhaps the public can impose fines and penalties. :-))

QT

The Labour MP , was pathetic. Most Labour MP's can only remember from the time that the Conservative's gained power, and have white washed all their dirty years in power from history. And now they have the barefaced cheek to blame others on uncontrolled immigration, the NHS [ Wales ] , the EU[ they gave our rebate back], human rights law mess and all the other rubbish they left us with.

And you wouldn't get any Welsh Lamb.
that's ok Fred, my butcher gets his lamb locally and very good it is too, as he hangs it for 2 weeks :-)

ED MILIBAND insists Labour’s general election battle “is no tougher than the fights we have faced in the past” - despite a new poll which suggests he is on course to lose 90% of his Scottish MPs to the SNP.

Mr Miliband acknowledged that Labour has had a “tough week” with the dramatic resignation of Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont, but said its general election success and devolution referendum in 1997 and the success of Labour-led Better Together in September demonstrates that the party has won tough battles in the past.

Scottish MP Jim Murphy has launched a campaign to lead Scottish Labour and end the streak of “losing Labour” following two poor Holyrood campaigns.

• Leaderless and in freefall, the only way back for the Scottish party is to rigorously assert its independence, says Lesley Riddoch

He faces competition from MSPs Neil Findlay and Sarah Boyack, with many Labour members insisting an MSP should lead Scottish Labour to dispel Ms Lamont’s parting shot that UK Labour is treating it like “a branch office”.

A new Ipsos Mori poll for STV News found that 52% of Scots would vote for the SNP if there was a Westminster election tomorrow, meaning the SNP could secure 54 seats, with Labour’s current 40 reduced to four and the Liberal Democrats reduced to one.

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In a speech to Scottish Labour’s gala dinner in Glasgow tonight, Mr Miliband said: “We meet here after a tough week for our party in Scotland and after an extraordinary year when Scotland has gone through a profound debate about its future.

“We meet here proud that in September we won the battle to keep our country together.

“And we meet here above all determined to fight to show the Scottish people that Labour can be the change they want to see.”

He added: “We are just over six months from the general election.

“I look forward to working shoulder to shoulder with whoever the party in Scotland elects as leader to win that election.

“Over its history we have seen the Scottish Labour Party fight for the values our movement holds dear.

“We face a tough fight but no tougher than the fights we have faced in the past.

“The fight for workers’ rights 100 years ago which Scottish Labour led and won. The fight for an NHS which Scottish Labour led and won. The fight to get rid of the Tories in 1997 and establish a Scottish Parliament which Scottish Labour led and won. And the fight to keep our country together which Scottish Labour led and won.

“In the next six months I know the Scottish Labour Party will fight every hour and every day to deliver the changes the working people of Scotland need to improve their lives.”

• Tony Blair has insisted Ed Miliband “can and will” win the general election

There was a further blow for Labour as a second poll indicated a commanding SNP lead.

A YouGov study for The Times put the SNP on 43%, which would give them 47 seats in Westminster, with Labour on 27%, which would leave them with 10 MPs.

The Conservatives were on 15% and the Lib Dems on 4%, giving each party a single MP.

:: YouGov surveyed 1,078 adults between Octover 27 and 30.