Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

If anyone wants a 'nearly free' 1 week holiday out in Turkey on a property viewing holiday just contact Orka Homes.

The 'nearly' bit is, that you will have to pay for your flights. These are around £120 Return. They will fix you up with good 4* accommodation which may be something like a detached villa with pool, or a really good 4* hotel.

The temp out there at the moment (Oct/Nov) is around 20 deg C.

Have a look at http://www.orkahomes.co.uk/viewing-trip/book-a-viewing-trip/

One last thing....

Before you do this, do a Google for something like 'Orka Homes Turkey Reviews'

Cyners Im trying to find you the low down on Turkey on twitter just doing a search.

Jesus, this is the first thing I got up.......

auren Duhon ‏@lcduhon 17h17 hours ago Sugar Land, TX

My parents are fighting over whether to buy a smoked ham or turkey. Please don't let me get to this point in life.

Rai Radio3 ‏@Radio3tweet Oct 23 Rome

Stunning aerial photo shows hundreds of cars abandoned at Turkey border by refugees fleeing fighting in Kobani, Syria

the above (49023) is a much more accurate summation of the situation in turkey
it's reasonably certain that most on here don't know the geography and juxtaposition of the turkey/syria border, so perhaps someone could post a map to show

anyway, the area of danger is in the very far south and eastern part of turkey and an awful long way from the tourist areas in the west that border the mediterranean

going back to the beginning of 20th century and kemal attaturk and the foundation of turkey as we now know it, the turks aided by the kurds massacred the armenians and there has been much friction in that respect and similar ever since
moving on to the late 70s, the kurds, through PKK and primarily sunni, have been fighting to form a separate and independent state from turkey

as far as i can see, the more recent internal problems have stemmed from the drift from a secular society to one where erdogan wants to (re)impose a much stricter islamic rule

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i am not sure that the above simplistic summary is 100% accurate, but no doubt someone much more knowledgeable will correct as necessary

Cyners, a lot of what was on yesterday as been censored and taken off Twitter, but theirs loads of reports coming through saying fighting in Kobani as stepped up a level and its a hell hole.

sticky - try my summation above; no surprise that the immediate area around kobani and along the border there is seriously dangerous with an awful lot of vicious and barbaric fighting - but when has war ever been gentlemanly?

There is no fighting around the villas, particularly the ones with the pools - not even fighting for sun loungers.

:-)

cynic

the drift from a secular society to one where erdogan wants to (re)impose a much stricter islamic rule

That was what happen in Egypt , and the army took over to save the country from civil war

the Islamic scum have no borders or humanity they are what they say they are fighting for allah death to any one who does not believe but will still kill you if we do not like you

turkey is not safe for tourist keep out the turkey government will not act but hide .

it looks like cynic as done the same how can any one say they no nothing at the evil they are doing yet cynic hides and says no nothing give me evidence you can not make it up . lets have a whip round and send cynic to kobane

excel . the Islamic leaders have said they will take more hostages from near by countries . turkey is dangerous for any tourist no matter what part of turkey they are in the government will not protect tourists

MrT - just bugger off for a while will you old son and give us a rest from your incessant diarrhea of grossly inaccurate rubbish and polemic

i know i can squelch you, but i refuse succumb to your schoolboy bullying and perpetual abuse that would make me feel obliged to do so

Back to sense:

cynic, that second sentence is a bit rich coming from you!:-)

Tanker

Are you for real with your opinion about followers of Islam?

I get a bit fed up with reading some of the crap you spout on here and I put it to you, that your islamaphobic view is obnoxious and in trying to strike up hatred against muslims on here, it is also verging on being illegal.

Throughout the entire world, including the UK, there are people who are utter scum bags. And they don't have to be followers of Islam to be scum bags either.

In fact, with some of your attitudes shown on here, you are not too far from being a bit of a scum bag yourself.

Not that it has anything to do with it, but what the hell religion are you?

He belongs to a private sect of his own!

Buddhist

dd4 - polemic from me? .... i don't think so ...... posting rubbish ..... possibly ...... inacurrate? ..... not intentionally

GOOGLE-CHROME UPDATE
i have just received what looks like a legit "suggestion" that i download an update to my google-chrome
however, i have a feeling it's a "plant/scam" that will put all sorts of unwanted garbage and tracking stuff into my system

i refused to download

UK to seek immigration changes despite Merkel EU 'warning'

Osborne: "David Cameron and the Conservative Party always put Britain's national interest first"
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That will be the first time in 4 years!
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Mr Osborne said the British people wanted concerns about EU immigration and access to benefits addressed.

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Cameron is going to make a speech of immigration policy.

Only problem he has got one yet and Nigel isn't telling him.


Watch out for some more U-bend policies during the following weeks.

The problem for Cameron is the way he tries to stay in power "popular" policies are coming back to bite him.

They fragmented society and know don't know what the voters want!

(Neither do the voters.)