goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 05 Nov 2014 14:44
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GF
Correct. So am I. (Slowly as I have always been lazy.)
Again, even if their earnings were allowing them to pay their way.
The problem is the cost of their personal tax, may be more than the tax collected.
The system is to complicated, but try simplifying it.
UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
TANKER
- 05 Nov 2014 14:49
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gf why should the uk tax payers give immigrants to set up home when the youngsters of our country are struggling to get a home . you are wrong we should give no immigrant benefits to move here look after our own . if immigrants want to come here because they have a job then it is quite simple the company they are going to work for should pay the cost not my taxes
now tell me I am wrong
if our people go to live in the eu they get no help no benefits no free doctor nothing
and I do travel a lot .
TANKER
- 05 Nov 2014 14:53
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tax system should first 15k tax free next 55k 20p then 40p and no higher
cynic
- 05 Nov 2014 14:55
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i certainly see no reason why (new) immigrants should queue-jump the housing ladder - rung-jump perhaps! - when, as you say, those who were brought up here (or similar) have little to no chance of getting council housing or whatever you want to call it
MaxK
- 05 Nov 2014 14:59
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We all know the problems.
So why are the politicians not addressing them, instead of tip-toeing around the shitpile?
Fred1new
- 05 Nov 2014 15:05
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Because the don't want to create a bigger one.
And you shouldn't describe yourself like that.
8-)
TANKER
- 05 Nov 2014 15:10
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thank you cynic
cynic
- 05 Nov 2014 15:14
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MrT - why on earth would you thank me? ..... i'm just stating what i genuinely believe and what seems blindingly obvious
TANKER
- 05 Nov 2014 15:37
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cynic well our gov do not find it so
cynic
- 05 Nov 2014 15:41
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ah well, this gov't like any other gets itself pulled around by all sorts of other factors and factions ..... they're often irresistible like the effects of the butterfly
Haystack
- 05 Nov 2014 15:45
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Generally, immigrants do not queue jump housing and other key benefits. The ones who get the housing etc are the asylum seekers. If an asylum seeker is accepted as genuine they are treated on a par with UK residents. The problems arise due to the fact that most of them arrive with often large families. They then get better treatment than people here due to their need being greater than single people, couples and small families. It would be the same if there was a large UK family that was homeless. In the end, you have to decide if you want to offer asylum to people in need. The system is abused to a large extent and perhaps that is where effort should be spent.
cynic
- 05 Nov 2014 15:51
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asylum seeker or immigrant, i perceive no great difference, and sure as hell "your" asylum seekers get precedence over "our own" as you effectively admit
TANKER
- 05 Nov 2014 16:04
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to seek asylum should you not seek asylum at the first country you enter by passing throw that country should mean you are not an asylum seeker they want to reach the uk at all cost . they are not asylum seekers just after jumping the long queue it is just a scam in 98% of cases
Fred1new
- 05 Nov 2014 16:06
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Haze,
Hear you help is needed in that tory bastion Rochester.
Just in case you missed this
Labour ahead in more Conservative seats – but not by much
Wednesday, 5 November, 2014 in Marginal seats
By Lord Ashcroft
In my previous round of battleground polling, published last month, I looked at eleven constituencies where the Conservatives have majorities of up to 4.8% over Labour. I found that nine of them would change hands on the basis of my snapshots, with swings to Labour ranging from 2% to 8%, averaging 5% in the seats as a whole."
Haystack
- 05 Nov 2014 16:25
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I think the effective difference is that immigrants often turn up by themselves and bring more family later. Asylum seekers often turn up with the whole families. Certainly a lot of asylum seekers are fraudulent. You have to be here to claim asylum. Some turn up on tourist flights and then claim asylum on landing. We don't send them back until we have investigated their claims which due to backlogs can take a very long time; years in some cases.
TANKER
- 05 Nov 2014 16:32
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that is why we are going to vote ukip we are sick of the bloody lies and more lies
round up all illegals and those that hide them and deport them,
in force the law to any person hiding a illegal to be deported
Haystack
- 05 Nov 2014 16:40
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Voting for UKIP won't change anything. Only a government can change the things you dislike. UKIP are a protest party but won't have any power. If you want these things changed then vote for a strong government. A Conservative clear majority would make it possible to make the changes. Other combinations will not.
The other combinations are
Labour majority - no change
Various coalitions - no change
TANKER
- 05 Nov 2014 16:45
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hay , Cameron is a liar on giving us a vote of in out it would not happen ,
the eu is a stinking rotten band of crooks and not good for the uk people
why can any scum come to the uk and get free medical and we have to pay in all eu countries it stinks and we want out .
Haystack
- 05 Nov 2014 16:47
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Of course there would be a referendum. He would have such a back bench revolt if he didn't. You have no reason to think that he won't give the vote