Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2826121/SIMON-HEFFER-Dave-pray-Miliband-doesn-t-quit.html

There will have been cheers in Downing Street at the news that, despite some panic-stricken Labour MPs calling for his resignation, Ed Miliband was staying put as party leader.

For the increasingly hopeless Mr Miliband is David Cameron’s most powerful not-so-secret election weapon in his fight to remain prime minister.

When Harold Wilson was similarly said to have lost the confidence of the Labour faithful in 1969, he sharply retorted: ‘I know what’s going on. I’m going on!’ Mr Miliband, sadly, lacks both the wit and the stature to disarm his own critics so easily.

Since his pitiful conference speech and Labour’s plunge in the polls in its Scottish heartland, Mr Miliband looks like a loser.

Haze,

The tories are s==== scared!

Ed play it cool and let them destroy themselves.

The public groan when Osborne the U-bend's names are mention.

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Any news at Party HQ about Hague taking over from Cameron?

Mind I wouldn't turn my back on Theresa.

Another Socialist leader found out to be useless.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0IQ14R20141106?irpc=932

Hollande popularity plumbs new low in mid-term French poll

PARIS (Reuters) - Half-way into his five-year mandate the popularity of French President Francois Hollande hit a new low on Thursday, hours before the Socialist leader addresses the nation to defend his shaky record on the economy.

In the worst score for a president in modern-day polling, Hollande received a 12 percent approval rating in the monthly survey by pollster YouGov, down 15 percent from the prior month. Other recent polls have put his popularity at 13 percent.

Earlier the chief executive of France's third-largest bank, Credit Agricole, slammed Hollande's government for its uncertain efforts to kickstart the eurozone's second largest economy.

"The absence of a clear vision and lack of coherence in economic policies is weighing on confidence and therefore investment and economic activity," CEO Jean-Paul Chifflet said during a conference call to present the bank's results.

Hollande is due later to face journalists and members of the public for a question-and-answer session on prime-time TF1 evening television. He will likely face criticism about broken promises to cut rising unemployment and public deficits.

Hollande failed to meet his goal of reversing the rise in unemployment by the end of last year. A pro-business strategy to boost the economy through tax breaks for companies who boost hiring has alienated many of his left-wing former backers.

His impopularity has stoked a backlash from rebel lawsmakers on the left of the Socialist Party seeking to block his supply-side economic reforms, even as the far-right National Front has made inroads with disillusioned French voters.

A Harris Interactive poll published on Monday found that 92 percent of respondents said they were not satisfied with Hollande's track record, with 96 percent saying he had not held to his campaign promises made before coming to power in 2012.

fred - No, but at least one had a better standard of lying!

so were they bad teachers or did they have bad pupils? :-)

Ed shadow minister plunges in the dagger: Now Tristram Hunt joins Labour revolt... as poll says Miliband is liability

Labour voters said the best thing Mr Miliband can do to help Labour beat David Cameron is to quit.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2826937/Ed-shadow-minister-plunges-dagger-Tristram-Hunt-joins-Labour-revolt-poll-says-Miliband-liability.html

By Szu Ping Chan7:44PM GMT 08 Nov 2014 Comments4 Comments
Interest rates will remain on hold beyond next year’s general election, the Bank of England is expected to signal this week, in an environment of lower inflation, weak wage growth and increasing eurozone headwinds.
Economists expect the Bank’s latest Inflation Report to highlight a risk that price rises, as measured by the consumer prices index (CPI) could fall below 1pc at the beginning of 2015, from September’s five-year low of 1.2pc.
According to the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR), the recent decline in oil prices to $83 a barrel from $115 in June will push CPI inflation down to 0.5pc by next June. Douglas McWilliams, chief executive of the CEBR, said if prices fell to $60 a barrel, headline inflation could turn negative.
If inflation dips below 1pc, Mark Carney, the Governor of the Bank of England, will have to write an open letter to the Chancellor explaining the fall and how policymakers will ensure that inflation returns to the Bank’s 2pc target.
Alan Clarke, a strategist at Scotiabank, said it was very likely this could happen before the end of this year. “Last December, we had a 6.5pc increase in gas and electricity prices, that’s not being repeated this year, so that will push inflation down by 0.3 percentage points.
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Coupled with that you’ve got Sainsbury’s recent decision to cut 1,200 prices and mild autumn weather pushing down on clothing prices. All in all, if they forecast sub-1pc inflation they’re conceding that Carney’s going to have to write a letter and the market will push back the first hike even more than it already has done."
In June, Mr Carney said the decision surrounding the timing of the first rate increase “could happen sooner than markets expect”, prompting traders to price in a November rate hike. However, an oil glut, the slowdown in the eurozone and falling inflation means markets now expect the Bank to raise rates in August 2015, well after May’s election.
Andrew Haldane, the Bank of England’s chief economist, said in a speech last month that a “gloomier” global outlook and lower inflation suggested that policymakers could afford to keep interest rates lower for longer.

Here we go!

http://news.sky.com/story/1369726/ed-miliband-in-fresh-crisis-over-leadership

Ed Miliband In Fresh Crisis Over Leadership

Ed Miliband's leadership was plunged into fresh crisis after reports that 20 shadow ministers are poised to call on him to quit.

Senior figures are ready to strike if former home secretary Alan Johnson signals he is prepared to step into the breach, according to The Observer.

The number of Labour MPs prepared to act has "reached a critical mass" but they want a coronation rather than a difficult leadership contest.

A senior figure told The Observer: "There are 20 frontbenchers who are actively considering what is best to do. They are from all areas of the party, bar the hard left."

Polls also suggest a dramatic fall in support for Mr Miliband's leadership.

Only 34% of Labour voters questioned now think Mr Miliband is up to being party leader, compared to 51% last month, said a YouGov poll for the Sunday Times.

In another blow the Mail on Sunday reports Shadow Education Secretary Tristrum Hunt criticising moves to rebrand Mr Miliband's profile.

He reportedly tells colleagues. "I never believed the answer to Labour's problems was to show people more of Ed Miliband.

"It has been a complete failure. It is making things worse, not better. Ed has excellent qualities but that is not the way to show them. It is absurd."

Sky's senior political correspondent Jason Farrell said: "If you were going to look at this and say this was a Conservative paper plot, look at the front page of the Observer, because that is quite worrying reading from a Labour newspaper.

"They’re saying that 20 shadow ministers are ready to call for him to quit.

"There isn't a letter demanding Ed Miliband's resignation, but there could be very quickly."

Farrell added: "All of these newspapers are going to make pretty difficult reading for Ed Miliband."

What if they get someone competent?


Would be very bad news for dave.

Alan Johnson is the likely candidate. I wouldn't think he would be popular across the country. He is a bit lack lustre and not much of a public speaker. It is said that he lacks the ambition to be PM.

The queens corgi would be more popular than Ed, but whats Cameroons claim to fame?

max - What if they get someone competent?

answer - as long patently obvious DM would have been a shoo-in ....... tories are deeply grateful to unite and other hard-left unions for getting em elected as their puppet

Fred has gone very quiet . :-))

i think fred has reached the same conclusion as most of us had ...... both main party leaders and their close henchmen are a disaster

Agree, Perhaps we should become Fred's then and not vote . lol

The Ed Miliband media and tory dirty tricks are running fright and trying to divert attention from their own split and disastrous lying by Cameron and Osborne over Europe.

Rochester will be exposed them for what they are. A split fragmented nasty party detested by many of their old former party supporters and voters.

I like Johnson and think him very capable and sensible, but as I says himself, it is a step to far for him and he doesn't have the necessary fluency in economics necessary as a background for the job of PM.

He was very capable and shrewd, but unfortunately in the rat race of politics accepts his limitations.

Unlike Osborne and Cameron who overvalue their abilities, Johnson has his feet on the ground and is fully aware of the mess and fragmented country the present mob of tory incompetents are leaving.

Ed, I guess will go back to a more collegial form of government, without the strutting and posturing detached arrogance of the Etonian stunted group of school boys which camp followers like Haze and fellows lick up to.

Edit.

I think the patch of blue could represent his own party and voters who are fleeing to other parties.

Is it true when Cameron wants to go from No 10 to see Osborne at No 11, he goes down through the sewers (natural haunt) to see him.

Strange how the real problem and success of the Cameron isn't be shown.

I thought the etonian academic elite were going to solve all the UK's problems.






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Mind when Cameron gets the UK kicked out of the EU all our problems will be solved.

I wonder if Farage will start building a wall around the south coast?

The runners and riders to take over from millibandus

I bet dave cant believe his luck