Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred you must bow down everyday to the great Nigel , he saved your arse.

Long live Farage ...

Can't hear you!

A true likeness.




But he did prove useful in one way.

I can picture Fred's mother dosing him up from a similar bottle when he was a baby, it was called Gripe Water and Fred hasn't stopped griping since.
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Are you that old?

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gripe water is still marketed

Probably, but contents have been changed.

It seemed a little like Pastis but had had the alcohol taken out of it.

And i've sent a few cases of gripe water to the 'remainer's' HQ, to help
soothe their bellyaching. LOL

Post 5290---There's a response to that somewhere, just can't put my finger on it. lol
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Have you noticed that the latest buzz word in the EU club is the unwelcome rise of "populists". As opposed to unpopulists I suppose - those that say "this is going to hurt you more than it hurts me, but don't worry it will do you good".
Now for me populism is putting the ordinary person above party ideology. And why not? Very few people are members of political parties - Hays apart of course.
The more populism the better, I say. It got us out of the EU, so can't be that bad. Once the French rediscover the cojones of 1789, they also will be free again. I always used to admire the Parisians for paying high taxes for a beautiful well kept city. Now Paris (and Rome) is becoming a seedy shadow of what it was.

A bit off topic but i saw the BBC prog about New York last night and the astronomical cost of housing there , Harlem is now a very expensive place to live , millions in fact to buy a flat etc . Now building above a Railway Station the cost you have to hear it yourself . Watch it on i player its incredible .

5293 - just a more politic word for rabble-rousing or soapbox oratory appealing to the great unwashed

What about NATIONALISM which usually goes after Populist in the pro-eu oratory,
either way they think its an obstacle against the EU super dream project...

What about NATIONALISM which usually goes after Populist in the pro-eu oratory,
either way they think its an obstacle against the EU super dream project...

ah, that's very different of course and much nastier in its perception and for good reason

NO anyone who is patriotic is accused of being nationalistic to anyone on the
left, unless you are an SNP, or a Welsh nationalist, mention you're an English
nationalist and you're a little englander racist bigot.

Yes, but the ingrish are arse-ist, everyone knows that.

the description "nationalist" has had seriously nasty undertones ever since the 30's ..... now i wonder why that would be

patriotic may be deemed a bit jingoistic, but no worse than that