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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 05 Dec 2016 21:09 - 5941 of 12628

The court case is just about whether the government is behaving in a legal way. Even Parliament is subject to the rule of law which trumps everything. It has nothing to do with the will of the people. The law always trumps the will of the people as well.

cynic - 06 Dec 2016 05:07 - 5942 of 12628

trump and law do not sit happily in proximity to one another

grannyboy - 06 Dec 2016 08:15 - 5943 of 12628

Of course the government has behaved in a legal way....The fact parliament
had a vote on having the referendum, with a near 10-1 in favour of a referendum
, and with the result being to LEAVE then that gave the government the right
to trigger article50, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK TO PARLIAMENT!!!!


And its just being reported on sky news that all these anti Brexit remoaners
are now threatening to band together to get May to divulge her Brexit plans.

AND THESE FECKERS STILL HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SPOUT TO ANYONE WHO
WILL LISTEN THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO STOP BREXIT AND RESPECT THE
WILL OF THE PEOPLE!!!!

Now you've got to understand that this is from a gaggle of LYING..DECEIVING..
SCUMBAGS, who have the EU project running through their veins!!!!

MaxK - 06 Dec 2016 08:21 - 5944 of 12628

Half the judges have skin in the game .. check out their ties with €uropa.

Joe Say - 06 Dec 2016 08:58 - 5945 of 12628

Bang on Max - the idea that they are independent is laughable

Time for a revolution me thinks

jimmy b - 06 Dec 2016 09:13 - 5946 of 12628

Haystack- 05 Dec 2016 21:09 - 5942 of 5946

The law always trumps the will of the people as well.

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Who makes the law ,a minority .

Dil - 06 Dec 2016 09:53 - 5947 of 12628

These remoaners who want everything debated to ensure we get a good deal are going to be the reason why we get no fecking deal at all if all our cards are out in the open.

Bloody loonies the lot of them who have no real intention of respecting the will of the people but are just out to block and sabotage any attempt at leaving.

Should all be shot for treason starting with Farron and that silly cow Gina.

Dil - 06 Dec 2016 09:54 - 5948 of 12628

Your near the top of the list too Fred :)

jimmy b - 06 Dec 2016 10:26 - 5949 of 12628

You forgot to mention Clegg Dil .

Dil - 06 Dec 2016 10:59 - 5950 of 12628

Aye and Sturgeon and the idiot in charge of Welsh Assembly.

Wales voted out , he lost seats and voters left right and centre to UKIP and the chump thinks he speaks for us on Brexit !

Dil - 06 Dec 2016 11:06 - 5951 of 12628

To be honest I really don't give a flying shit if half a dozen sheep farmers in Wales lose their EU subsidies when freedom of movement and the single market has meant factories closing in Wales and being relocated to Eastern European countries with the loss of 100's probably 1000's of jobs here in Wales.

jimmy b - 06 Dec 2016 11:36 - 5952 of 12628

While the immigrants that we so badly need in booming Britain flood in.

VICTIM - 06 Dec 2016 11:48 - 5953 of 12628

This is what gets me , how many hundreds of thousand are going to make their way here with nothing to stop them in the next 30 odd months , whether there are jobs or not . Just dump themselves on us and stay it's criminal .

Haystack - 06 Dec 2016 13:24 - 5954 of 12628

JB
Parliament makes the law based on GE manifestos. The judges then interpret those laws

If the will of the people was paramount we would have calital punishment

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2016 14:03 - 5955 of 12628

Sometimes I wish we had, and I was passing the sentence.

But others seem to prefer suicide!

grannyboy - 06 Dec 2016 14:08 - 5956 of 12628

If there was a referendum on capital punishment and the majority was
for it, then the majority's wishes should be carried out..Otherwise why
would they have a referendum in the first place..

But with the weak bleeding heart liberals holding roost there won't be
a referendum on capital punishment anytime soon...

UNLIKE A REFERENDUM ON LEAVING THE EU!!!!..Errr....Opppps!

Haystack - 06 Dec 2016 14:34 - 5957 of 12628

The reason there is no referendum on capital punishment is because there has historically always been a majority in favour. This is an example of where the the will of the people is ignored. I say historically, because now there seems to be a substantial majority opposed to it.

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2016 14:57 - 5958 of 12628

Morality, has caught up with the law.

For the majority, it usually seems to.

VICTIM - 06 Dec 2016 15:21 - 5959 of 12628

You always speak as if you are some celestial being Freda , and yet thinking back to a lot of your diatribe and verbal spewings it mostly works out to be total bullshit eh .

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2016 15:32 - 5960 of 12628

Vicky,

I alway had doubts in your ability to understand other than a very little.

Thinking must be difficult for you.

But keep on trying, you never know.


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