Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack are you happy with the goings on in relation to the EU , and how do you see the future , Are we in for a rough ride .

aldwickk it scares me .

VOTE OUT !!! they look like they are looking for more powers , and as for Hollande ,every one with any money has left France since he got in .

as is often said, "You can negotiate with a terrorist but not with your wife"

Well, here's me thinking we might well vote to stay in.

However, after reading this latest news I feel like putting a big fat bet down to say we will be voting OUT for sure.

Reading between the lines, I think we should be very wary of this 'Hollande-Merkel' relationship, particularly when it is chaperoned by J C Juncker.

The way the EU is heading is unfortunate but inevitable. We joined as a trading group (the Common Market). It has now become the European Union and all that it entails. One of the original political aims was to group Europe together in a way to reduce the chances of a future war. That has worked very well. Germany and French have bigger plans. The current left wing government in France has more social engineering ambitions. Before Hollande, France was sceptical of the concept of central control. The leftish parties across Europe see federalism as a way of establishing socialism as the default political system. Free movement of people is central to that ideal so as to dilute national identity. It is the same reason that Labour sought to deliberately bring in immigrants knowing that it would change our demographics and ensure Labour stayed in power. That much has been previously revealed in Labour party emails and admitted to by numerous party members.

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Well thanks for that , someones playing a dangerous game with these immigrants . I've often thought National identity would be a big loser and massive mistake . In all honesty I think we are playing into the hands of Islam and all it's fantasies .

I am not sure about Islam. I think that it is exaggerated. However, a loss of national iidentity has the potential to weaken us. Our success in several wars has been partly down to our strong sense of a national identity.

Well my big fear before was Labour getting in , but now I'm developing a great fear for these Isles . I don't think people are taking this Europe seriously enough or it's harm to us or for that matter other countries .

Number of foreign criminals freed from prison living openly in Britain tops 5,000 for the first time
5,053 foreign criminals released from prison now living openly in the UK
Last year the figures stood at 4,247, up from 3,800 at the beginning of 2011
Comes after figures showed net migration had soared to 318,000 last year
Around one in six foreign criminals released from jail have disappeared

have posted this many times Poland allowed its prisoners be freed if they left the country now we have them over 1000 murderers and rapists

the island of kos over run by migrants holiday makers running to safety police harmed with guns holiday makers want to go home . Greece needs to act and drive them in to the sea . its no longer tenable action has to be taken how many isis ilers are among them ?
get the boats to the port and drive them on to the boats and take them back
have just come back from Greece holiday makers will now not go
it will destroy greece

victim. glad to see some one with vision and honest .
we need the vote now and get out and put the army armed on our shores

Protective fences have been built in Sofia, Bulgaria and Ankara, Turkey to stop the flow of people.



The three countries have long discussed setting up joint police teams to patrol the borders. and shoot any one trying to cross the fences signs saying we will shoot

hundreds cancelling their greek holidays
read more in press releases who the hell would risk their families gong to these places . its going to destroy the good greek islands for good

cynic I have two tickets to kos you can have them and the hotel for half price
I paid 2200 you can have them for 1000

It strikes me that many on this thread would celebrate the rebirth of the National People's Party.

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I have a feeling the many in the EU would be happy to see the back of a carping UK.

Interesting to watch while Cameron and cronies are doing a hatchet job on the UK and dividing it into thiefdoms, while the majority of Europe want to strengthen it and improve relationships with other members, legally, financially and culturally.

Probably lead to tightening up on the "safe tax" havens dotted around Europe.

But if that happens, it may lead to trading tariffs on England, especially if Scotland can escape.

What is interesting is what the USA considers it best policy and whether it may consider it relationship with the EU and NATO.

I reckon Merkel and Hollande are fed up with Dodgy Dave's and putting the right foot and taking it out and blustering for party political reasons.

If it wasn't so serious, it would be laughable, but it is fascinating to watch.

Bon voyage cynic

how kind of you
unfortunately, the greek islands would never be my choice as the food is always crap

i think i'll stay with our booking in cascais ..... prettier, better food, fine architecture and interesting walking and exploring nearby ..... indeed, pretty much everything the likes of kos have never had to offer

Yes, but you miss out on the slappers by bypassing Kos.