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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

fahel - 19 Dec 2012 19:28 - 6581 of 6906

Bethlehem Bible College Choir O Little Town of Bethlehem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3eWAXBlm1Do#!

Gausie - 31 Dec 2012 11:08 - 6582 of 6906

Happy birthday to you know who - you grumpy old sod!

;-)

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 14:45 - 6583 of 6906

The town of Bethlehem in Roman times was in an area called Palestine(Palestina in Latin). Palestine was the name for a large area including Judea. The people of that area were referred to as Palestinians irrespective of their religion or ethnicity. There were Jews, Muslims etc.

This means that when Jesus was born, he was a Palestinian. Recently Fatah said that Yasser Arafat was the second greatest Palestinian after Jesus.

cynic - 01 Jan 2013 15:04 - 6584 of 6906

that's funny .... hamas history is different from others ..... Bethlehem at the time was an Israelite city in Judaea ..... just shows how confusing facts are

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 15:24 - 6585 of 6906

And Judea was in Palestine.

cynic - 01 Jan 2013 15:36 - 6586 of 6906

i think you are wrong, though the regions may have been known as Judaea-Palaestina or Judaea and Syria Palaestina ..... anyway, it is indisputable that it was (they were) an eastern province of the Roman Empire, so what twitty point are you trying to make? ..... do we get 3 guesses? ..... Perhaps it should be handed back to the Italians as successors to the Roman Empire?

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 15:51 - 6587 of 6906

Library of Congress

Judea is the southern region of ancient Palestine; the Qumran region was a barren area within the Judean desert which yielded the Dead Sea scrolls treasure.

cynic - 01 Jan 2013 16:03 - 6588 of 6906

and in what era are you choosing your facts and the point you are trying to make?

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and it's a funny old life, but suggest you go to salaam.co.uk and read and also look at your geography on their kindly-provided map of the region ...... i wouldn't DREAM of saying you were talking bollocks, but others might!

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 16:53 - 6589 of 6906

I am not making any particular point.

cynic - 01 Jan 2013 17:04 - 6590 of 6906

unusual for you and therefore your post was pretty pointless was it not? ..... anyway, the site i suggested is very interesting for all that

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 19:38 - 6592 of 6906

Cynic, this may strike chord with you.

An interesting article in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/a-special-place-in-hell/will-2013-be-the-year-american-jews-secede-from-israel-1.491286

Will 2013 be the year American Jews secede from Israel?

If American Jews think that what is being done in their name is self-destructive, oppressive, blockheaded and wrong, it stands to reason they would want it to stop

.......But many American Jews are already distancing themselves in word and deed from a government it sees as arrogant and short-sighted, enslaved to a runaway train of settlement, dismissive of the rights of Palestinians and other non-Jews, cold to the concerns of a sinking middle class and the drowning disadvantaged, contemptuous of the concerns of the larger Jewish world.

fahel - 01 Jan 2013 19:43 - 6593 of 6906

Some of My Best Friends Are Zionists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGtR5PTECGg&feature=player_embedded

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 20:01 - 6594 of 6906

Cynic, I have to say that I think you would agree with the video above.

cynic - 01 Jan 2013 20:02 - 6595 of 6906

i think many in uk are too, and quite rightly so ..... in fact i have berated my local rabbi for the lack of backbone shown by the jewish uk leaders ...... apparently there are critical letters in JC ..... wowee! .... who the hell reads that? ..... none of them have the moral outrage to make a noise in the wider media .... totally pathetic!

fahel - 01 Jan 2013 20:24 - 6596 of 6906

Israili Man in Tel Aviv hit brutally a Christian tourists because he looks like Jesus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZzpiuIUAFE

cynic - 01 Jan 2013 20:27 - 6597 of 6906

in many countries you can get hit for looking jewish or muslim or gay or wearing the wrong colour scarf at a football match

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 21:41 - 6598 of 6906

This is the new Fatah logo. The black and white area symbolises a Palestinian headscarf. The shape is the map of Palestine which includes the area currently and temporarily called Israel. The 48 refers to the 48 years of Fatah.

Fred1new - 02 Jan 2013 10:25 - 6599 of 6906

Hays and Cynic,

Agree.

I think the majority wish for a peaceful egalitarian resolution to the ME.

What that is, is the problem with safe guards built in for all the different communities.

But I think at the moment Israel is being led by donkeys.


Fahel,

Thank you for the pointer to the bellow. Very interesting.

Some of My Best Friends Are Zionists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGtR5PTECGg&feature=player_embedded




Haystack - 03 Jan 2013 21:01 - 6600 of 6906

I see that Israel has learnt from the Nazis when they annexed the Sudetenland at the start of WWII.

Wednesday 2nd January, two high-ranking Likud politicians called on Israel to annex the West Bank's Area C, where all settlements are located.

Maariv Hebrew language newspaper said that the two politicians, Public Diplomacy Minister Yuli Edelstein and MK Ze'ev Elkin, were among a lineup of speakers at a Jerusalem conference organized by Women in Green, on the "Application of Israeli Sovereignty over Judea and Samaria."

http://www.smh.com.au/world/israeli-right-eyes-annexing-parts-of-west-bank-20130103-2c75k.html
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